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[therealsilverback]

Hi

I am 20 and I recently paid my coach to start my first cycle of testoline

well he set me up for a four week cycle with four injections in total. I argued with him that online people are using them for lik 12 weeks or something but he says no ur body doesnt need that much

Please suggeest what shud i do? Should I jsut go on with what he says or pay more and tell him I need more

 

[UserAt204]

He's an idiot. Four weeks won't do anything for you at all. It takes time to build blood levels. He's also a moron for giving AAS to a 20 year old. Your hormone system is not completely stabilized at your age and could possible cause a lot of problems for you. I would get rid of that "coach" and go to our diet forum and see 3J. He will get you on a bulking diet.

 

[.x3]

He's an idiot. Four weeks won't do anything for you at all. It takes time to build blood levels. He's also a moron for giving AAS to a 20 year old. Your hormone system is not completely stabilized at your age and could possible cause a lot of problems for you. I would get rid of that "coach" and go to our diet forum and see 3J. He will get you on a bulking diet.

agreed

 

[therealsilverback]

the thing is that I have already paid him for everything and he is supposed to start stuff from tomorrow. He has been a pro builder and like reached national levels so he says that either you listen to me or rookies on the net and stuff. He says I will build you a physique but you should have faith in me that even if I give you poison you should close your eyes and take it. Thats the kind of dedication I need,

I mean can I jsut go ahead with this one since I paid for it and like get rid of him after that.

 

[coolhandjames]

damn a coach is giving you shit ?

this is fucked up.

 

[therealsilverback]

I mean I see people all the time saying that you shouldn't even think of steroids till you get 35 or something. I mean I don't want to be an old guy sticking needles in himself.

What about arnold and the other ppl who started takign steroids at age 16.

As for the diet thing I dont have a problem with that. I eat a lot and I can get big really easily. But I feel that I kinda get weak at times and like one cycle would stabilize stuff. I study in the US where steroids are illegal but I am back in my home country for the summer so I just wanted to get a head start adn quit this stuff. I wont be bale to get any in the US anyway and I promised my gf that I wont take anymore

 

[therealsilverback]

damn a coach is giving you shit ?

this is fucked up.

lol yea they are legal here

 

[coolhandjames]

I mean I see people all the time saying that you shouldn't even think of steroids till you get 35 or something. I mean I don't want to be an old guy sticking needles in himself.

What about arnold and the other ppl who started takign steroids at age 16.

As for the diet thing I dont have a problem with that. I eat a lot and I can get big really easily. But I feel that I kinda get weak at times and like one cycle would stabilize stuff. I study in the US where steroids are illegal but I am back in my home country for the summer so I just wanted to get a head start adn quit this stuff. I wont be bale to get any in the US anyway and I promised my gf that I wont take anymore

i didnt even have to read the rest of this post.

20's too young, your test levels are high^^ right now kid.

Your routine is probably shit.

For football training should be...

Squat, deadlift, calves EOD
shoulders and core in between... your biceps arent gonna help you get through the line boy.

Arnold ?.... dont worry about what he did. and your "coach" he don't give 2 fucks about you, that dude wants to win.

Be smart or at least try the best you can.

 

[therealsilverback]

i didnt even have to read the rest of this post.

20's too young, your test levels are high^^ right now kid.

Your routine is probably shit.

For football training should be...

Squat, deadlift, calves EOD
shoulders and core in between... your biceps arent gonna help you get through the line boy.

Arnold ?.... dont worry about what he did. and your "coach" he don't give 2 fucks about you, that dude wants to win.

Be smart or at least try the best you can.

Could you tell me your stats as in how old are you and when did u start roids
your weight? heights stuff

 

[therealsilverback]

I am really sorry for the ocnfusion I forgot that in the US when you say coach people assume its a football coach. Hes a trainer sorry.

 

[Yes]

35 is an old guy ? Gees, what does that make me ?
That's even worse bro. Your trainer should know even better than a coach. These guys are suposed to teach natural training. He should be fired and lose his licence !

 

[livebigdieyoung]

theres not a problem with a 20 year old taking gear.
cmon guys i know loads of people who started younger than 20 and it can cause massive problems yes but if taken properly then the problems can be well avoided.
but if at 20 his growth plates are fused, then if he cycles sensibily there should be no issue with him cycling.

 

[Yes]

theres not a problem with a 20 year old taking gear.
cmon guys i know loads of people who started younger than 20 and it can cause massive problems yes but if taken properly then the problems can be well avoided.
but if at 20 his growth plates are fused, then if he cycles sensibily there should be no issue with him cycling.

Sounds like you are grasping at straws for a good reason to use steroids....

 

[livebigdieyoung]

not really? what are you reason for using them?
feel good?
feel healthy?
look good?
thats mainly why anyone uses them.
im just saying if he is serious about his training and diet then there isnt a issue with him using gear, but only if he does it properly and safely!

 

[Yes]

not really? what are you reason for using them?
feel good?
feel healthy?
look good?
thats mainly why anyone uses them.
im just saying if he is serious about his training and diet then there isnt a issue with him using gear, but only if he does it properly and safely!

I'll put it to ya like this... I'm not 20.
My natural tests levels are low. Because I'm not 20.
I already am beautuful. I don't need steroids for that

 

[livebigdieyoung]

yeh but who are you to say because he is 20 he cant do it?
your doing it for the same reason but you think because he is 20 he shouldnt.
if he is fully grown and does it resposibily there is no reason why he cant cycle.
i know most people say wait till your 21 but honestly if he is ready now and wants to do he is going to!
would you rather help him do it properly than let him fuck his body up?

 

[Yes]

I didn't say he couldn't do it. I don't care what he does. It's no skin off my ass.
I said that his trainer is giving him bad advice and he should be fired.

 

[coltmc45]

4 weeks on test won't do shit unless everything I've researched and everyone that's ever taken it an posted about it is wrong. Takes 4-5 weeks min to feel/see results if im not mistaken. Your test levels are still high. And 21? I thought it was around 25 when your natural levels start dropping so wait til then. And why does everyone bring up arnold like Arnold did it so it's ok. That was how many years ago when scientific studies on the effect of compounds on your bodies weren't shit compared to what they are today. Your coach is an idiot. I'm no expert. Running my first cycle myself, but 20 and only 4 weeks of test? Sounds like a waste of money and a waste of your bodies natural ability. Just my opinion. You're gonna do what you want though but don't be surprised when you don't see any results, except the ones your getting from your diet.

 

[jamesl0822]

4 weeks on test won't do shit unless everything I've researched and everyone that's ever taken it an posted about it is wrong. Takes 4-5 weeks min to feel/see results if im not mistaken. Your test levels are still high. And 21? I thought it was around 25 when your natural levels start dropping so wait til then. And why does everyone bring up arnold like Arnold did it so it's ok. That was how many years ago when scientific studies on the effect of compounds on your bodies weren't shit compared to what they are today. Your coach is an idiot. I'm no expert. Running my first cycle myself, but 20 and only 4 weeks of test? Sounds like a waste of money and a waste of your bodies natural ability. Just my opinion. You're gonna do what you want though but don't be surprised when you don't see any results, except the ones your getting from your diet.

X2

Will this 4 week cycle hurt you ...not likely
but will it help you... also not likely.

Maybe your coach is attempting to use some sort of placebo effect? Either that or selling you his leftovers?

Either way you are likely in no physical danger but honestly before you decide to cycle (or anything else for that matter) get a handle on your what you want to accomplish and research this forum.

As for your "coach", he may have some unknown reasoning behind his actions but he is most definitely misleading you and he either knows it or is an idiot from whom you should distance yourself.

 

[sojiiro109]

That coach does not know what he is talking about, like mentioned above the 4 weeks wont be long enough for it to build in you're system and for you're blood levels to be optimal.