need your opinion guys!!!

[the striker]

a friend of mine wanna do d-bol cycle for 8 week only d-bol and nolva
i said to him that it won't be effective and he'll lose most of his gains but he still wanna do it! so i want your opinion guys.
hes training for 5 years now, wanna do first cycle
25 mg aday for 8 week
190 lbs
1.80 meter

 

[Vegas]

Bad cycle. That is my opinion.

If he is going to do an oral only cycle stick with anavar, but even that will be short changing his gains. He should man up and do test if he is going to take the leap. There is really no way around it.

 

[Behemoth]

You would NOT lose most of your gains with a dbol only cycle - you WOULD lose all the water you gained though. I don't know why you think the muscle you gain would magically fade away after the cycle was over.

But sure, a dbol only cycle is a bad idea. I would stick to test. I was considering a dbol only cycle for a while because my wife didn't want me using needles, even though she was okay with the idea of steroids in general for some reason. So anyway, I looked into it quite a bit and decided it wasn't worth the time for me. You can only go on for 6 weeks tops unless you really hate your liver. But dbol is definitely potent... but in the end, injectable test will give you better results.

You should really have "your friend" do the research himself. 8 weeks is too long, in my opinion. How old is he? bodyfat %?

Does he also realize that Test Enanthate is typically quite a bit cheaper than dbol? You can get a full 12 week cycle of Test E for half the price of a crappy, low dosage dbol cycle. And you still need all the ancilliaries with dbol, so you aren't saving any money there.

 

[the striker]

he's 22 trainig for 3 years 15-14 bf he wanna get a good "push" out of this cycle....but he won't listen and probebly afraid for the needel i also said to him go 4 test cyp (what i gonna start in 3-4 mounths) but he want's orals
does test e chyper than cyp?
and witch one is bether cos i can get only syp 2000ml for 111$ bitish dragon.

 

[Vegas]

does test e chyper than cyp?
and witch one is bether cos i can get only syp 2000ml for 111$ bitish dragon.

They are basically the same price and same in terms of potency. Either is good.

 

[diezell]

i would prefer test e since it usually comes 250mg/ml s cyp which is 200mg/ml most the time

 

[the striker]

i would prefer test e since it usually comes 250mg/ml s cyp which is 200mg/ml most the time

yeah u are righ the cyp is 200mg i'll tr to find another sourch mybee

 

[FORDMAN]

I hate when people keep insisting...if you read the thread he is telling you his freind wont listen...it is really annoying when people keep saying the same shit over and over again..and BTW..i have a freind who is a PRO and i told him about how everyone hate,s dbol..and saying that dbol gains wont last...wanna know what he said..he said them guys dont know what they are talking about....you just have to know what you are doin...dbol is still the most popular steroid in the world......ADIOS

 

[greenback]

IMO your friend needs to do his research before he starts up anything. Test would be a good idea for starters. Like fordman's friends said you just gotta know what you're doin. Good luck to your friend bro

 

[putin]

I hate when people keep insisting...if you read the thread he is telling you his freind wont listen...it is really annoying when people keep saying the same shit over and over again..and BTW..i have a freind who is a PRO and i told him about how everyone hate,s dbol..and saying that dbol gains wont last...wanna know what he said..he said them guys dont know what they are talking about....you just have to know what you are doin...dbol is still the most popular steroid in the world......ADIOS

I agree with you. What the hell is wrong with these idiots that have been training with steroids for years and still claim all gains from Dbol is water. WTF is wrong with these morons. It's annoying because I keep hearing the same bullshit over and over again. Water is not muscle, look it up in the dictionary and learn the difference between both.

 

[Behemoth]

I hate when people keep insisting...if you read the thread he is telling you his freind wont listen...it is really annoying when people keep saying the same shit over and over again..and BTW..i have a freind who is a PRO and i told him about how everyone hate,s dbol..and saying that dbol gains wont last...wanna know what he said..he said them guys dont know what they are talking about....you just have to know what you are doin...dbol is still the most popular steroid in the world......ADIOS

I specifically said that the muscle gains would not be lost. Anyway, you want to know why dbol is the most popular steroid in the world? Because it's easy to take. No needle. That doesn't mean it's better than injectable test. As I said, dbol is definitely potent, but since it is oral, you really shouldn't run the cycle longer than 6 weeks or so, which automatically means that test is more useful since you can run test enanthate up to 12 weeks without much problem.

But you're right, you do have to know what you are doing. But with regards to the original post, I'm not convinced that it is "his friend" who doesn't want to listen.