Hello everyone, I started TRT about a month and a half ago. Everything has been good and is still good. However, I got my labs back recently and the first time I have had Estradiol checked and here is the numbers:
TT: 633 (300-1200)
FT: 123.6 (35-155)
E2: 99 (14-55)
Here is my stats:
-age 35
-height 5'11"
-waist at natural bend above navel:36.5/ at navel:39.5
-weight 190
-describe body and facial hair:
no probs growing beard, and hair everwhere else.
-describe where you carry fat and how changed:
I carry most if not all fat around my waist,belly,lower back and chest. look lean everywhere else.
-health conditions, symptoms [history] :
I have 2 herniated discs, severe DDD, and grade one listhesis in the S1, and L5 regions. I have been fat since high school with some yoyo diets thrown in there as the years progressed. My highest weight was 232 in high school. Before starting TRT I had low libido, ED, no energy or motivation, depression (from not being able to attain any goals with my body, despite best efforts for several years, bad memory, brain fog, barely any results regarding strength or muscle gain and fat loss despite several years of weights and diet and cardio. Anxiety, I believe from not being comfortable in my own skin...due to above...at some points I was "skinny fat", other times I was just fat. I had no confidence as well. TRT has changed that so far.
-Rx and OTC drugs, any hair loss drugs or prostate drugs *ever*:
I take naproxen,tramadol during the day as needed for pain. I take flexeril at night (one). I also take 2 fish oil caps/day 1400mg total / 900mg omega 3 in each tablet, 2 calcium tabs/day 600mg, one b12 tab 1000mcg/day, one multi vit./day, one vit D3 (5000) / day. No hair loss drugs, no prostate drugs.
-describe diet [some create substantial damage with starvation diets]:
I am currently on 1g/lb. bw of protein and low fat diet eating 2700 calories/day. In the past, I had yoyo diets, but I don't ever recall eating less than 1800 cal/day.
-describe training [some ruin there hormones by over training]:
I am doing upper/lower split mon/wed/fri/sun with one one chest exercise,2 back exercises, one shoulder exercise, and squats,deadlifts,and stiff leg deads. as many sets as it takes to get 24 reps per exercise. if i'm in 6-8 range I increase weight.
-testes ache, ever, with a fever?
Testes ached a while back for a little while, no aching anymore. No fevers.
-how have morning wood and nocturnal erections changed:
both have come back to life since TRT!\
I work in a lab and have run "shotgun" labs in Chemistry. All labs except Testosterone were normal. Testosterone total is the only T test we do, and we don't do Estradiol. My LH, and FSH were normal before going to TRT. Now they are like 0.1 or something. My T were 193, 383, 354, and 321 concurrenty before TRT. I don't know what the FT was at that time because we don't test for that either. I use iodized salt frequently, so I don't think there is a problem there.
I have also had a MRI of the brain to include pituitary with and without dye. The results were normal.
Here are my labs I ran this Monday...(10.14.13): labs were drawn at 11:30am
WBC: 6.8
NE%:71.2
LY%: 18.2
MO%: 8.4
EO%: 1.8
BA%: 0.4
NRBC%: 0.0
RBC: 5.16
HGB: 16.5
HCT: 48.2
MCV: 93.3
MCH: 31.9
MCHC: 34.2
RDW: 12.3
PLT: 207
MPV: 7.3
RETIC%: 1.25
AFP: 2.00 NG/ML <_44
CK-MB: 2.1 NG/ML 0-3.0
CORTISOL: 6.89 UG/DL 5-25
EPO: 7.65 mIU/ML 2.6-18.5
FOL: 18.49 NG/ML 2-20
FRT4: 0.92 NG/DL .7-1.8
FERRITIN: 19.2 NG/ML 12-300
PRL: 12.27 NG/ML 2.7-13.5
PSA%: 22.86
PSA: 0.73 NG/ML <2.5
PTH: 22.2 PG/ML 10-70
TSH: 1.98 uIU/ML .3-3.0
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE: 713 NG/DL 300-1300
B12: 641 PG/ML 130-950
FPSA: 0.1 NG/ML
we don't test free testosterone, or estradiol at my lab, so I don't have it. I ran those a couple weeks ago as per above at quest diagnostics. I ran these so that I could give you all some numbers to work with since you don't like "normal ranges" as an answer.
NA: 139 MMOL/L 135-145
K: 4.0 MMOL/L 3.5-5.1
CL: 100 MMOL/L 100-109
CO2: 33 MMOL/L 22-29
CALC: 9.1 MG/DL 8.3-10.3
ALB: 4.2 G/DL 3.4-5.0
BUN: 27 MG/DL 5-20
CREA: 1.2 MG/DL 0.6-1.3
GLUC: 85 MG/DL 70-109
PHOS: 4.7 MG/DL 2.5-4.9
TP: 6.3 G/DL 6.1-7.9
ALP: 63 IU/L 31-126
ALT 38 IU/L 11-63
AMM: 27 uMOL/L 9-35
AST: 34 IU/L 15-46
CHOL: 133 MG/DL 135-200
CK: 530 IU/L 38-397
CRPH: 0.94 MG/L 0.00-6.00
DBIL: 0.07 MG/DL NO RANGE
LD: 135 IU/L 100-190
ETOH: 2.6 MG/DL 0.0-5.0
FE: 90 UG/DL 28-182
MG: 1.9 MG/DL 1.5-2.4
GGT: 18 IU/L 5-60
HDL: 42 MG/DL 30-70
LDL: 74 MG/DL 0-100
LIP: 32 U/L 10-50
TBIL: 0.6 MG/DL 0.0-1.1
TG: 116 MG/DL 30-200
TRFN: 269.2 MG/DL 168-336
URIC: 4.7 MG/DL 2.6-8.7
ANION GAP: 10.0 MMOL/L
OSMOLALITY: 281.9 MOSM/L
A/G RATIO: 2.0
INDIRECT BILI: 0.5
BUN/CREA RATIO: 22.5
TIBC: 377UG/DL
SAT: 23.9%
as far as I can see the only thing that looks funny on my labs is the low ferritin. However, my iron (FE) is right in the middle of normal, and I am not anemic...?? Anyone have thoughts on that?
Also, my CK is elevated. However, my CK-MB is not. So that leads me to believe it is the muscle damage incurred during my stiff legged deadlifts.
Ok, I think I have started to feel the Estrogen...today I felt good in the morning, but during the day I started feeling kinda "heavy and lethargic." Kinda feel sick in a way. Also, the orgasms have not been as good lately. I am going to try the 2 shots a week to see if it helps because I can't see the endo for another 2.5 weeks. If I take my shot on Tuesdays (I take 0.8ml a week right now,) should I wait till next Tuesday morning and take 0.4ml, and take the second 0.4ml on Friday night?
Now, since the 0.8ml shot brings me up to about 1200 TT from about 600, the 0.4ml shot should take me up to about 900 TT...so theoretically, I should be going from 900 to 600 TT in between shots...does that sound right to you?
Ok, quick update. I injected 80mg (half my weekly dose) yesterday morning, and by 12pm I was feeling GREAT! I suppose the lower dose didn't raise the E2 too high. I am probably still high in E2 though. Still feeling great. Next dose will be Friday night I guess.
Well, my visit with the endocrinologist was disappointing. He is not going to prescribe Arimidex to me, even though he knows my estrogen was 99 because it was not approved for use in that manner. He did a thorough checkup and commenced to "explain" to me all about the hormones and what not and primary vs secondary, all a while I am sitting there like...ya uh huh, thinking I already know this...he tried telling me ...."you had a 300 something back in june. I was like, yeah...321? That's numbers of an 80 year old man.
He said nothing, what could he say? I can't say I didn't expect this result. However, he agreed that I do need the Testosterone therapy, and said all he could do is monitor me, or I could just keep going to my family doctor and have him monitor you. He commended me for my research and my understanding of how the body works, but that doesn't help me out. So, I will have to order online.
Can someone tell me how much of a supply I can order of HCG without it going bad before I can use it. I am going to be using either 500iu twice a week, or 250iu three times a week...I haven't decided yet.
How often has anyone got there order held by customs?
Also, does anyone use credit card with safemeds4all, or alldaychemist?
Thanks you guys.
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