Nicked a Vein, Lost Some Gear

[Spid3rAlex]

Doing .05 ml of test cyp every two weeks, and I think a vein was nicked. After pulling out the syringe, some blood came out, and some gear came out. Don't think it was a whole lot, just maybe like 3-4 drops worth. You guys think I wasted the whole shot worth, or just a little bit? Injected with the needle all the way in.

Should've aspirated, I know. >_<

 

[MickeyKnox]

Nope, youre fine.

But i would worry more about increasing my protocol to every wk, at the very least, when using Cyp for TRT.

My .02

 

[Spid3rAlex]

Nope, youre fine.

But i would worry more about increasing my protocol to every wk, at the very least, when using Cyp for TRT.

My .02

Thanks man, yeah...switched to every two weeks about 3-4 mos ago because at every week the levels got a little on the high side (mid 700 range) and started having some liver enzyme elevations that made everything all weird. lol

Upon decreasing somewhat, the lab work came back really good, so 600-650 range is working well.

 

[Mprtz]

There really shouldn't be any significant elevation of liver enzymes from injected T, there is probably something else going on there. It's really only the alkylated oral anabolics that stress the liver.

When was your blood draw done relative to your injection? There is going to be a huge difference between the level 2 days and 14 days after injection. 2 weeks IMO is way too long and can't result in a stable serum T level.

 

[Megatron28]

Doing .05 ml of test cyp every two weeks, and I think a vein was nicked. After pulling out the syringe, some blood came out, and some gear came out. Don't think it was a whole lot, just maybe like 3-4 drops worth. You guys think I wasted the whole shot worth, or just a little bit? Injected with the needle all the way in.

Should've aspirated, I know. >_<

I don't aspirate. Lot's of guys don't for IM injections. In fact, that guidance is being phased out.

I assume you meant .5mg (not .05ml). If it is the standard 200mg/ml that means you are only taking 100mg of test cyp every two weeks. That isn't very much. I can't recall seeing many guys taken less than 100mg per week and you are only taking 50mg per week. How much do you weigh? Are you really low body fat %? You must have gotten lab work done at your Peak. Have you checked trough levels? I am guessing you are back to hypogonadal levels by the time you reach your trough. Do you feel ok the entire two week period?

 

[300winmag]

Blood and some test coming out is common at least for me, seems to be 50-50 for me. Theres a few ways to combat this, do the injection slow and once complete leave the needle in there for 15-30 second so it can settle. Also there is a method called the Z method or something. Instead of grabbing and bunching up skin and doing the injection, spread your skin apart and flatten it while doing the injection, then let go when you pull the needle out, its supposed to trap the test. Ive tried it seems to work, but makes me nervous in hitting a bone or something.

As for the liver. The doctor does saftey checks with the liver he calls them. I dont have any issues but im guessing there is a correlation of trt and liver.

 

[Spid3rAlex]

Yeah, I generally feel fine at two week intervals. I have some bw that I'll post later when everything was at it's peak level. The bw was done on the day before my injection was to occur. I'm at about 195lbs, with maybe 12-15% bf.

 

[Megatron28]

I am amazed. I am glad it works so well for you.

 

[Spid3rAlex]

I am amazed. I am glad it works so well for you.

Thanks man, I switch between every week, and every two weeks to kind of keep the level stable. I start to feel weird when it gets high, so I switch to every two weeks for a month or two, then increase back to every week for a while, rinse repeat. I'm trying to keep the level around 650-700ish, without really going over. Side note, have any of you guys seen an increase in your PSA? Mine's @ 2.5 with last bw.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks man, I switch between every week, and every two weeks to kind of keep the level stable. I start to feel weird when it gets high, so I switch to every two weeks for a month or two, then increase back to every week for a while, rinse repeat. I'm trying to keep the level around 650-700ish, without really going over. Side note, have any of you guys seen an increase in your PSA? Mine's @ 2.5 with last bw.

I have not seen a PSA increase. I think I'm around 0.03

 

[Mprtz]

No increase in PSA for me, 0.8 or 0.9 in all tests. I'm 49.

 

[Good.2.Go]

Man you jinxed me. The other night I read your post & said to self, "I bet that sux." Then it happened to me...go figure. I was thinking how much of this T am I going lose...it's so valuable! On another note when I pinned weekly I thought it was a lot of nonsense of pinning ever 3.5 days but, I gave it a try to see what all the hoop-la was about. I was amazed at how much better I felt.

 

[Shaggyofwv]

Man you jinxed me. The other night I read your post & said to self, "I bet that sux." Then it happened to me...go figure. I was thinking how much of this T am I going lose...it's so valuable! On another note when I pinned weekly I thought it was a lot of nonsense of pinning ever 3.5 days but, I gave it a try to see what all the hoop-la was about. I was amazed at how much better I felt.

I agree. My doc has me on 2 m/l per month, but I am taking 1 m/l per week divided into a shot on Sunday and one on Wednesday.

 

[prudens]

I've never aspirated... What's the big deal anyways? Is it you hit a vein and it hurts???

 

[Megatron28]

I've never aspirated... What's the big deal anyways? Is it you hit a vein and it hurts???

It isn't about hitting a vein. It is about injecting into a vein. That does more than just hurt bit.

 

[bushleaguechew]

It isn't about hitting a vein. It is about injecting into a vein. That does more than just hurt bit.

Since oil in vein can be a bad thing why did you say earlier that you don't aspirate?

 

[halfwit]

Since oil in vein can be a bad thing why did you say earlier that you don't aspirate?

The odds of actually getting any appreciable amount of oil into your blood stream intravenously when injecting IM is very, very low. You will most likely have the vessel collapse long before you send a dangerous amount of oil cascading into your cardiovascular system. At worst, you'll get a metallic taste in your mouth and a slight cough. Megatron is right, aspiration for IM is being phased out as not only do people not do it correctly, but it has been shown to have a negligible effect on the safety of the folks being injected.