No libido on Test/Tren/Mast, got bloodwork done what am I doing wrong?

OP had similar issues knowing real e2 on tren. I had to switch and use quest their e2 regular essay doesn't seem to be affected by the tren metabolites. I also paid extra and got the sensitive e2 and they both have me an accurate reading. After adjusting AI dosage feeling better than every been 3 weeks one more and I'll get bloodwork to confirm how I feel to my e2. Halfwit has been a godsend to my progress take his advice you'll not regret it

I'm relatively new here and I'll tell you blood work has been key for me. Hopefully after a little more time I'll be able to adjust on feel.

Good luck
 
OP: I had to do a double-take when you said you were pinning that much gear ED....after reading a bit more, I realized that you meant EW. The other posters here make good points: both high AND low E2 can cause those problems, and you need to get it stabilized quick or you're going to ruin your cycle.

I won't chastise you, but I WILL say that you seem a little inexperienced to be messing with Tren in the quantities that you've posted! I've actually run a VERY similar cycle, but with both higher dosages of test and Tren, but without the winny with excellent results......BUT, I knew from experience, how my body handled E2 and AI, and also had Caber on hand too..I hope you have Caber or prami on hand just in case your inexperience leads to leaking/lactating nipples!

In short: PLEASE be careful!
 
It seems you have no interest in listening to people with experience. You are hell bent on reinventing the wheel and learning every the hard way. So good luck and please know that we will welcome you with open arms in the TRT forum.

Just curious... how old are you? What are your stats?
 
Bloodtests where I live cost really expensive upwards to 100 euro's for a bloodtest and I really much prefer to spend that money on gear for now I'll be having more of an budget 1-2 months later on then I can really drop things and get immediate blood test see how I react but for now I'm trying to fix it by feel.



Dry skin, dry lips and diuretic effect, I don't know for sure but looks like it's low estro if not I'll find out real soon.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Dry skin and lips can be caused by a multitude of things. If you have high estradiol, and start taking an AI - you can bet you'll be urinating a ton, as your body will cease retaining as much water.

Another test would be best.

In my experience, low estradiol makes it EXTREMELY difficult to get out of bed, causes my tendons to ache, and kills my morning wood.

I still have been extremely surprised after getting a panel done; thinking I'm high/low, only to find I'm the opposite - and I like to think that I have this stuff down really well.
 
Bloodtests where I live cost really expensive upwards to 100 euro's for a bloodtest and I really much prefer to spend that money on gear for now QUOTE]

Don't worry. In about 3-4 weeks you'll be able to record yourself shooting milk out of your man tits. Then you can sell them online to those wierdo fetish porn sites so you can ge a bloodtest.
 
It seems you have no interest in listening to people with experience. You are hell bent on reinventing the wheel and learning every the hard way. So good luck and please know that we will welcome you with open arms in the TRT forum.

Just curious... how old are you? What are your stats?

Thanks alot bro! I'm 18 years old been training 5 years as an natural - 202lbs and 10% bodyfat - https://openmerchantaccount.com/img/tphoto5.jpg

Dry skin and lips can be caused by a multitude of things. If you have high estradiol, and start taking an AI - you can bet you'll be urinating a ton, as your body will cease retaining as much water.

Another test would be best.

In my experience, low estradiol makes it EXTREMELY difficult to get out of bed, causes my tendons to ache, and kills my morning wood.

I still have been extremely surprised after getting a panel done; thinking I'm high/low, only to find I'm the opposite - and I like to think that I have this stuff down really well.

DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF BED this times x1000 halfwit, I've never been the person having an hard time getting out of bed I was literally dying getting out of bed. 2 days since dropping the AI, today I actually felt like coming out of bed nothing even joking.

Injected 2.5cc of test-E today which puts me in a gram total for this week, I'll be injecting 2cc - 2 x times / week from now on.

Bloodtests where I live cost really expensive upwards to 100 euro's for a bloodtest and I really much prefer to spend that money on gear for now QUOTE]

Don't worry. In about 3-4 weeks you'll be able to record yourself shooting milk out of your man tits. Then you can sell them online to those wierdo fetish porn sites so you can ge a bloodtest.

Hahahah! Let's pray things wont go that south LOL!
 
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I'm not an troll, I'm simply asking for advice doesn't mean I'll follow every single advice I'm giving. Yes, I know I should drop everything together and keep it at test only but I already knew that beforehand I was hoping someone dealed with this before and maybe had an different approach then dropping everything together but test.

This was not the case, but if I didn't ask I would never know! I see no reason why you're flaming me, I don't condone anything I'm doing if things go south I can learn from my mistakes other people can learn from my mistakes but I don't believe there is an one size fits all and the thing with sources unless its a very well known source with testing products u never know what all ur taking.
 
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I'm not an troll, I'm simply asking for advice doesn't mean I'll follow every single advice I'm giving. Yes, I know I should drop everything together and keep it at test only but I already knew that beforehand I was hoping someone dealed with this before and maybe had an different approach then dropping everything together but test.

This was not the case, but if I didn't ask I would never know! I see no reason why you're flaming me, I don't condone anything I'm doing if things go south I can learn from my mistakes other people can learn from my mistakes but I don't believe there is an one size fits all and the thing with sources unless its a very well known source with testing products u never know what all ur taking.

you are 18 years old? grow some hair on your balls and come back when your at least 22, your body is still developing.
 
DUDE! You are only 18!? Jesus, son...stay the hell off the juice for a couple more years! With that amount of gear, you are SERIOUSLY jeopardizing your HPTA and your future ability to have kids!......AND this is your first cycle!?

Oh crap son, I feel almost heart sick for you....10% BF and only 202lbs? You still had LOTS of natural growth ahead of you without gear...your muscles have not even come close to maturity yet...
 
you are 18 years old? grow some hair on your balls and come back when your at least 22, your body is still developing.

DUDE! You are only 18!? Jesus, son...stay the hell off the juice for a couple more years! With that amount of gear, you are SERIOUSLY jeopardizing your HPTA and your future ability to have kids!......AND this is your first cycle!?

Oh crap son, I feel almost heart sick for you....10% BF and only 202lbs? You still had LOTS of natural growth ahead of you without gear...your muscles have not even come close to maturity yet...

Meh i'm out! Thanks alot for everyone that tried to help and wish everyone good luck with their goals and journey.
 
Thanks alot bro! I'm 18 years old been training 5 years as an natural - 202lbs and 10% bodyfat - https://openmerchantaccount.com/img/tphoto5.jpg



DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF BED this times x1000 halfwit, I've never been the person having an hard time getting out of bed I was literally dying getting out of bed. 2 days since dropping the AI, today I actually felt like coming out of bed nothing even joking.

Injected 2.5cc of test-E today which puts me in a gram total for this week, I'll be injecting 2cc - 2 x times / week from now on.

Hahahah! Let's pray things wont go that south LOL!

Wow! 18 and doing all this?
 
I'm not an troll, I'm simply asking for advice doesn't mean I'll follow every single advice I'm giving. Yes, I know I should drop everything together and keep it at test only but I already knew that beforehand I was hoping someone dealed with this before and maybe had an different approach then dropping everything together but test.

This was not the case, but if I didn't ask I would never know! I see no reason why you're flaming me, I don't condone anything I'm doing if things go south I can learn from my mistakes other people can learn from my mistakes but I don't believe there is an one size fits all and the thing with sources unless its a very well known source with testing products u never know what all ur taking.

You should not be using any AAS.
 
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