Nolva Only Over Clomid, PCT?

[growindude]

Talk about making your head spin. There are a million different opinions on proper post cycle therapy (pct). I've spent a few hours reading thru the various posts. The sad thing is that I feel like I'm just supposed to choose something and go with it. This doesn't seem very smart when we're talking about our bodies and what we're putting into it.

Anyhow, I just started the 15th week of my cycle. Did 11 weeks deca, 12 weeks enanthate, 14 weeks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and now ready to start hcg. Based upon what I've read, I should run 40mg nolva for 2 weeks then 20mg nolva for 2 more weeks. No clomid is needed. IS THIS RIGHT???? (I know clomid CAN be taken but it seems like the general opinion is that clomid isn't needed???)

So, will I be fine running 2 weeks 40mg nolva then 2 weeks 20mg nolva?

 

[Shadyadam]

You know what man my head too has been spinning to figure out a proper post cycle therapy (pct) with these compounds. But you need to dig deeper as to what these compounds do. I'll try to make this short and not bore you to death. Clomid and Nolvadex in a way they do the same thing "they bind to estrogen receptors" but the deeper meaning is which ones do they attach too? Well simply Nolvadex attaches to breast tissue related estrogen in hence helps against gyno. Nolvadex in my opinion is better suited for "during the cycle" to combat any gyno that could happen. Clomid on the other hand binds to a different one (and I can't think of it for the life of me sorry ) but it aids in the recovery of you natural test production (through LH cells and your pitunitary I forget exactly ). So in essence you need both and there are a million different ways to run them. In your situation the best way to run it would be this way...

Nolvadex
40/40/20/20

Clomid
100/50/50/50

 

[growindude]

Thoughts, anyone else?

 

[Vegas]

So, will I be fine running 2 weeks 40mg nolva then 2 weeks 20mg nolva?

Yes, you should be fine with that. I prefer to run clomid but it is not completely necessary in my mind. If you wish you could run an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin during post cycle therapy (pct) to help you further but again, that is optional but may be beneficial.

 

[roccodart440]

Yes, you should be fine with that. I prefer to run clomid but it is not completely necessary in my mind. If you wish you could run an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin during post cycle therapy (pct) to help you further but again, that is optional but may be beneficial.

Aboot. Have you had your test levels done lately. I'm curious to know how well you recover.

 

[rockape76]

there are no hard and fast rules of post cycle therapy (pct) only suggested guidelines..........i tryed different protocols until i found what worked best for me..........it took some time but was worth it in the end.....as im keeping the vast majority of my gains these days...

 

[Vegas]

Aboot. Have you had your test levels done lately. I'm curious to know how well you recover.

I'm actually flying down to see my regular doctor next week. I'll be getting them checked (finally) then. I'll keep you posted on the results. Remind me if I forget.

 

[bigEge]

Clomid makes me too emotional. I feel like a bitch.

 

[growindude]

Aboot. What did your doc say?

 

[berealjohn]

done clomid only, done nolva only, done clomid & nolva combo. clomid fuks with my vision, I use nolva only nowdays. always works for me!

 

[blackjack]

Clomid makes me too emotional. I feel like a bitch.

I 2nd this. clomid is a weak anti estrogen compared to nolvadex, and has been shown to have no effect on stimulating LH or FSH. Myself i will never use it again. I like nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct). along with some other OTC stuff I throw in.