Hello, first off i want to say thanks to anyone that replies to this thread helpful or criticism just as long as you can help me understand what I'm getting myself into I greatly appreciate it. My tattoo artist tried to get me on Dbol and Winstrol (winny) as thats what he takes himself. I am scared of the use of needles and have bee spending money on ceratine and other supplements and thought i might as well spend money on real gear. I read around and it looks like mixing dbol and Winstrol (winny) would kil my liver. So basicly I would like to know if I take Dbol by itself with out the test would be helpfull to bulk up. Im 30 years old 180 pounds and about 6'2, once again thanks in advance for the replies.
Noob Dbol question
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oral only cycles are not going to help you.
others like them i dont.
and your right reading about this first before taking something shows you got a good head on ya.
Dbol for the most part will make you stronger and will bloat you up. most of it will be pissed away when you stop and if you dont have natty test production you will feel even worse.
this artist was he ever on the boards.
i ask because i know of one that was a big time scammer from the east side of the states.
others like them i dont.
and your right reading about this first before taking something shows you got a good head on ya.
Dbol for the most part will make you stronger and will bloat you up. most of it will be pissed away when you stop and if you dont have natty test production you will feel even worse.
this artist was he ever on the boards.
i ask because i know of one that was a big time scammer from the east side of the states.
TommyTrainR
New member
youre going to get a wide range of replies. ill break it down for you and try to make it as simple as possible..
your tattoo artist is a dumbass for suggesting you hop on dbol and winny.. this is how steroids get a bad rep. people sharing misleading information.
you need to do the research yourself to figure out what you want and how to go about it..this is a great forum to start. search around, read threads and whatnot. you'll find TONS of great information on here. a lot of the guys are very supportive and helpful.
there's a lot more to taking steroids than just taking steroids. you'll need to plan out a PCT, as well as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) + HCG on cycle depending what you're running. it's not as simple as popping a pill or inject x ml's of x steroid.
im not trying to sound like a dick, but to sum things up. ur tattoo artist is a moron. do research around here and read lots of threads, read up on a bunch of different compounds and look at user experiences.
your tattoo artist is a dumbass for suggesting you hop on dbol and winny.. this is how steroids get a bad rep. people sharing misleading information.
you need to do the research yourself to figure out what you want and how to go about it..this is a great forum to start. search around, read threads and whatnot. you'll find TONS of great information on here. a lot of the guys are very supportive and helpful.
there's a lot more to taking steroids than just taking steroids. you'll need to plan out a PCT, as well as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) + HCG on cycle depending what you're running. it's not as simple as popping a pill or inject x ml's of x steroid.
im not trying to sound like a dick, but to sum things up. ur tattoo artist is a moron. do research around here and read lots of threads, read up on a bunch of different compounds and look at user experiences.
thank you for the quick reply greatly appreciated, I dont believe hes on the forums but don't know him well enough to be sure, but were on the west coast so i doubt it was him, he seems like a real decent guy that means well. So in your opinion if i dont want to use injectibles Im better off staying just on creatine? I was leaning torward the haladrol that gaspari makes and just figured haladrol was trying to immitate Oral Turnibol so why mess with an imitation when i could get the real thing.
like i said tommy any reply even criticism is helpfull and I view as knowledge shared to help me go about this the right way, ive been reading up on steriods for about a week and they're just very confusing. Like you said theres alot to know about them before just popping a pill, again thank you for the reply
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
i was on dbol only its self for a while. and loved it. one thing tho is the massive crash. youll want to take a supplement to up your testosterone tho, unless you can get over the fear of a needle an just ram it on home into the ass cheek, or have a close friend do it for you. cause it drains you out after a while. Winstrol (winny) never really worked for me, just wasnt as impressed with it. start stacking up on liver cleansers an pounding water if you decide to go this route.
TommyTrainR
New member
no prob. man. you did the right thing in ASKING first before jumping into random crap youre not familiar with. i wish more people would take these actions. hopefully you find the necessary info. on here. dont hesitate to ask questions. everyone (well, most ppl) are here to help out.
id stick to basic supplements for now..creatine, protein, multi vitamin, fish oil..things like that..and over time, you'll learn qutie a bit from just being a member here
TommyTrainR
New member
no doubt you're at the right place. i started researching juice n gear when i was 17 (i believe). i did a couple cycle of PH's (real basic stuff) after some research and continued for a while asking questions and piecing together my first cycle. It wasn't until I was 22 until I jumped into my first cycle and even at that time, i still have questions. i'm 23 now, about to start my second cycle and believe me, i'm on here almost everyday reading, asking, and trying to learn as much as possible.
oral only cycles, the consensus is pretty much, no no. It would be best if you could handle injects for many reasons.
with that being said i have done a few different short cycle being anadrol, dbol and a short m1t cycle.
I gained strength and size mostly all water but when the bloat was gone i did have size remaining, however it disappeared very quickly, which is pretty much what was said to happen.
Now of course i new i was in condition for these because make no mistake they are hard on the liver especially m1t which i would never have taken if i didn't assume i was in a position to take. Actually believe it or not the m1t may have been almost the strongest for me and no bloat. Anyway really dont recommend taking that one.
anyway man, your 6'2" at 180 lucky you hope you like food,
lucky bastard i'd be starting off my night tonight with a box of timmie's.
with that being said i have done a few different short cycle being anadrol, dbol and a short m1t cycle.
I gained strength and size mostly all water but when the bloat was gone i did have size remaining, however it disappeared very quickly, which is pretty much what was said to happen.
Now of course i new i was in condition for these because make no mistake they are hard on the liver especially m1t which i would never have taken if i didn't assume i was in a position to take. Actually believe it or not the m1t may have been almost the strongest for me and no bloat. Anyway really dont recommend taking that one.
anyway man, your 6'2" at 180 lucky you hope you like food,
lucky bastard i'd be starting off my night tonight with a box of timmie's.
ill echo everyone, the tatoo artist looks like hes trying to make a sale.....my buddy was told by 2 gym owners that Winstrol (winny) solo is great and tribulus is enuff for pct, oh btw, they wanted 4bills for the 2months of winny...he said they were cool guys and so on, but even cool guys will try n make a quick buck....
i explained to him why it was whack, n he listened....in my personal experience, like the others said, spending time reading, reading, and reading, more will better prepare you than listening to a gym rat or in your case the tatoo artist.
i did the same os the other post, fkd with phs a lil, had enuff, read up on aas since this past spring, i just started my first cycle 2wks ago, but im more than prepared/ready.....theres a ton of info here, and a ton of guys who really know their stuff, from reading too and first hand experience..............just my 2cents
i explained to him why it was whack, n he listened....in my personal experience, like the others said, spending time reading, reading, and reading, more will better prepare you than listening to a gym rat or in your case the tatoo artist.
i did the same os the other post, fkd with phs a lil, had enuff, read up on aas since this past spring, i just started my first cycle 2wks ago, but im more than prepared/ready.....theres a ton of info here, and a ton of guys who really know their stuff, from reading too and first hand experience..............just my 2cents
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
LMFAO! no way in hell i would pay that much for 2 months gear of Winstrol (winny). is there a weekly blowjob included with it?
bro, my best friend met a dude at his garage who has stuff, he was fkn dying to use Winstrol (winny), i told him meh (hes too fkn flabby too), he paid 3bills for 200x5mg lol, hes been sitting on that bottle for 2yrs cause i told him he got fkd, and hes got nothing to run with it (hes way overweight too, another shortcut guy with no knowledge), so this shit happens
as for the bj no, he was gonna add lipo6 black for extra 'cutting' but wanted another $80 for that shit lol...thank god he didnt buy the 'cycle' hehehe
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
jesus.... i can understand making a few extra bucks off it... but that just seems... overkill with no remorse
meh, i agree, but if someone is will to pay, my friend with the 2months of Winstrol (winny) for 4 was ready to pull the trigger, it was the sides he wanted to know about, i asked him about the price and post cycle therapy (pct) and then it came out....just from reading alot of threads theres alot of people who are willing to jump in regardless of price, sides,proper planning, ect.....just to get that extra muscle than more often than not these are the same people who dont have their shit down (diet/training)
for the prices i can get var and run it really high lol prob with some test if i was lucky hehe
i dunno man, but im 215, you saying i need to run abombs at 200mg+ to gain, maybe gain jaundice!
Once again thanks everyobody for the replies, i greatly appreciate everyone sharing their own experiences with me so i can get a better knowledge of this. Ive been reading forums but wanted ive been getting informationdirectly to my questions here, its great. I just became a member today and within 5 minutes of my first post i got a very knowledgable response. You guys are awesome and Im glad to have found this site - Good looking out everyone
TonySuicideKing
The 'Ology Man Whore
dont be afraid to ask. youll see some ball busters around this site. dont worry its a common thing. just have fun an dish it back if it happens. but youll gain alot of knowledge from here
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