Not doin tren...Winstrol

[GettinJack3d]

Alright, so i got away from the tren havnt done it, i just made it and set it aside. But i got a hookup on 105 winstrol pills not injectables...thought that this would be better then tren for a first cycle.

Anyone have any input for a PCT? or anything to stack with this?

And also 50mg every day or how should i run it?

 

[Cobra Strike]

how many cycles have you done?

stats....age/weight/bf%/height

winni is a bad idea....fucks up your lipids and causes joint pain to name a few

 

[GettinJack3d]

I have done no cycles this will be my first....im 20 height 6ft weight 195 bf% 10.5

 

[Trenaject]

how many yrs training? how dedicated are you to the gym? 4-5 days week? is your diet in check? what are your goals?

 

[GettinJack3d]

how many yrs training? how dedicated are you to the gym? 4-5 days week? is your diet in check? what are your goals?

been training for a very long time but in the last year i have gottten really into it. i Workout 4 to 5 days a week...my diet is good....and my goals are to gain alot of strength and trim up to about 7% body fat right now im 10.5

 

[Cobra Strike]

test only first cycle bro...dont ever do a fuckin oral only cycle..and winni doesnt even come close to comparing to tren....winni blows in so many ways and a little tip for ya...its not a cutter

 

[GettinJack3d]

Well i was going to do tren but everyone on this forum was talkkng complte shit about it and i definately should not do it for first cycle.

 

[TonySuicideKing]

Dude add in some test. IDC if its even 150mg a week. Winstrol only will drain you. Ive tried it. A BIG NO NO. I tried oral onlys the first couple. And I will never again. If you want to know all the sides I'll go on for days with what youll notice lol

 

[sicasso13]

test only first cycle bro...dont ever do a fuckin oral only cycle..and winni doesnt even come close to comparing to tren....winni blows in so many ways and a little tip for ya...its not a cutter

Orals are brutal brother!!!! Grab some test and start pinning the tren as fast as you can !!!

 

[sicasso13]

Well i was going to do tren but everyone on this forum was talkkng complte shit about it and i definately should not do it for first cycle.

Bullshit !!! Grab some test and hit the tren!!!
Every fuckin idiot says dont do tren for first cycle !! Your doing Winstrol (winny) LOL
The winni will give you more siudes than the tren !!!

 

[Greens]

Take 5 winni pills every day for the first 10 days, then do 15 pills every day for the next 3 days, then do 5 pills every day for the last 3 days.
That's a good jump start. Get some D-bols and A-bombs. Run each the same way, that should give you a really solid cycle for 7 weeks, and because you didn't take test or tren you won't need a PCT.
Just make sure that you don't drink too much water or you'll bloat.

 

[TonySuicideKing]

take 5 winni pills every day for the first 10 days, then do 15 pills every day for the next 3 days, then do 5 pills every day for the last 3 days.
That's a good jump start. Get some d-bols and a-bombs. Run each the same way, that should give you a really solid cycle for 7 weeks, and because you didn't take test or tren you won't need a pct.
Just make sure that you don't drink too much water or you'll bloat.

lmfao!

 

[coolhandjames]

Take 5 winni pills every day for the first 10 days, then do 15 pills every day for the next 3 days, then do 5 pills every day for the last 3 days.
That's a good jump start. Get some D-bols and A-bombs. Run each the same way, that should give you a really solid cycle for 7 weeks, and because you didn't take test or tren you won't need a PCT.
Just make sure that you don't drink too much water or you'll bloat.

my fuckin dick hurt readin this

 

[Cam01]

Well i was going to do tren but everyone on this forum was talkkng complte shit about it and i definately should not do it for first cycle.

Dude, stick to Test Cyp for 1st cycle.
Great for many reason:
You only inject 1 or 2 times weekly, it's, for-the-most-part very basic, and it gets you what you want..
As for cutting, since you already have the Winstrol (winny), I would end a 10 week Test cycle with the last 5 weeks on 30-50mg of Winstrol (winny) ed:

Test Cyp week 1-10 about 2cc a week
Winny week 4-9 30-50mg ed
Nolvadex week 12-16

 

[Pinnacle@Rep]

my fuckin dick hurt readin this

Ha! This site gets more hilarious every time I get on!!! My dick hurt readin' that shit too! Sad thing is some ppl listen to that shit!

Listen bro, taking tren on first cycle is a gamble and can be a shitty first timer experience leaving a bad taste for AAS in ur mouth literally. Nobody ever bashed Tren!!!! They're bashing using it on your first cycle or by itself! And since you don't use it by itself then stacking it with something on your first cycle gives you nothing to go on when/if you start having bad sides!!! You wont know what is causing what if you start out taking 2, 3, 4 different things to begin with!
Test E or C at 250mg/ml twice a week for 12 weeks and have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand along with proper PCT. Do that a time or two then throw the tren in there properly.
Could you do the test and tren to begin with and have good results? Yes of course but there are many ppl who will tell you that because of doing that they suffer permanent problems. Not worth the risk. Starting out with test alone gives you a good foundation for what to expect, what you feel, and just all around understanding and it is about the safest way you can increase Test levels and other hormones.

Cobra! Tell these guys how to get from point A to B!!!! After all.... You're the damn Gear Police!!!

 

[Cobra Strike]

Bullshit !!! Grab some test and hit the tren!!!
Every fuckin idiot says dont do tren for first cycle !! Your doing Winstrol (winny) LOL
The winni will give you more siudes than the tren !!!

bro this is not good advice on so many levels....

to the op...test only on the first cycle bro...lets do things right

 

[Cam01]

Bullshit !!! Grab some test and hit the tren!!!
Every fuckin idiot says dont do tren for first cycle !! Your doing Winstrol (winny) LOL
The winni will give you more SIDES than the tren !!!

FIXED. Get a 3rd grade english book and review it.. Just to refresh your coconut LOL

And I've never taken Tren, but I dont think your comparison is reasonable.. Winni more "sides" than Tren? I highly doubt it!

 

[Cobra Strike]

Could you do the test and tren to begin with and have good results? Yes of course but there are many ppl who will tell you that because of doing that they suffer permanent problems. Not worth the risk. Starting out with test alone gives you a good foundation for what to expect, what you feel, and just all around understanding and it is about the safest way you can increase Test levels and other hormones.

Cobra! Tell these guys how to get from point A to B!!!! After all.... You're the damn Gear Police!!!

this. You need to find out how test makes you feel and the effects it has on you so you can combat sides. If you run two compounds together and you get gyno then you dont know which one caused it and every cycle there after you wont know what compound is causing what side

starks....the gear police was started because of kids using aas...im not really gear police I just bust youth threads asking for help fuckin up their endo system lol

 

[GettinJack3d]

The only kind of test i can get is deca i already have winstrol pills and tren before i start anything i want to start it right and do it the right way......i did inject 75mg of tren in me the other day to see what i would feel and i really didnt feel anything at all....i think i did get the tren cough for a day...ive heard you get tren cough for first time injecting

 

[Cobra Strike]

The only kind of test i can get is deca i already have winstrol pills and tren before i start anything i want to start it right and do it the right way......i did inject 75mg of tren in me the other day to see what i would feel and i really didnt feel anything at all....i think i did get the tren cough for a day...ive heard you get tren cough for first time injecting

deca isnt a kind of test....test cyp test prop test enan sus - are the main kinds of test...Ive never heard of just test deconate by itself...

and dont go injecting shit to see what it feels like...its not coke bro you wont feel it right away...it has to biuld in your system