NPP bloat is making me feel fat

[Roush]

I'm totally coming in from left field as I have no idea what kind of diet he is on but isn't the loading of carbs a RE feed? He is giving his body the carbs so his metabolism doesn't slow down and his body won't think it's starving...
Just guessing here

well if he is on a moderate cut and not going extreme low calorie deficit , then there would be no point in a re-feed to 'yo yo back the metabolism' .. looks like a binge to me. heres why.

so lets say his maintenance is 2300 calories per day , and for his cut he drops it down to 2000 calories per day (nothing extreme like a 1000 calorie deficit because he wants to maintain muscle mass and keep his metabolism going).

that is a weekly calorie deficit for the cut of 2100 calories per week** . well lets do the math on his weekend binge. he says he consumes 500 grams of carbs, and a big fatty steak for a cheat meal .

well 500 grams of carbs = 2000 calories
big fatty steak = 1000 calories

that cheat meal for the weekend is 3000 additional calories for the week .. (when he is supposed to be in a 2100 calorie deficit for the week) , that cheat meal actually puts him in a weekly SURPLUS of 900 calories per week.

do the math , he is NOT even in a cut then, he is bulking cause he is in a weekly calorie surplus. Thats what binging does. no wonder he is holding water and feeling bloated when he supposedly 'cutting' , cause he is actually bulking.***

** weekly counting of calories (TDEE x 7) is better then daily, cause you can see a bigger picture then just one day

*** I'm not saying that math is actually NotGills numbers and calories and HE himself is therefore bulking even though he thinks he is cutting ,, this is just the example I'm giving., how that in the name of a 're-feed' one ends up binging and ends up not cutting at all when looking at the total weekly calories consumed

 

[Roush]

thats exactly the point of it. i dont "binge" on carbs like roush said above.. i eat no more than 50g carbs a day in the middle of the week

also i'm only on 350mg test a week, so 6.25mg of aromasin ED would be too much...

see above, you said in post 17 that your 'cheat meal' for the weekend is 500 grams of carbs and roughly 3000 total calories ,, thats a binge imo.


350 mg of test a week is plenty to warrant dosing Aromasin daily .. also, you are taking 350 mg a week of NPP which also aromatizes !
so your taking 700 mg per week of Aromatizing AAS , and you think that 6.25 mg of aromasin is too much ? again, aromosin has a short half life and is best dosed daily.

 

[oldmusclemike]

A vet like you doesn't know that mast helps with drying you out!? Cmon man

Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen

Dromostanolone has some reputation for anti-estrogenic activity, but in actuality this effect is fairly subtle. If due to use of aromatizing steroids a steroid cycle would produce substantially excessive levels of estrogen, adding Masteron to the cycle will not fix that.

The Mast will not take his bloat away it just will not add to it. He has to adjust his diet.

 

[SoHo]

see above, you said in post 17 that your 'cheat meal' for the weekend is 500 grams of carbs and roughly 3000 total calories ,, thats a binge imo.


350 mg of test a week is plenty to warrant dosing Aromasin daily .. also, you are taking 350 mg a week of NPP which also aromatizes !
so your taking 700 mg per week of Aromatizing AAS , and you think that 6.25 mg of aromasin is too much ? again, aromosin has a short half life and is best dosed daily.

good point. will try 6.25 masin ED from here on out

Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen

Dromostanolone has some reputation for anti-estrogenic activity, but in actuality this effect is fairly subtle. If due to use of aromatizing steroids a steroid cycle would produce substantially excessive levels of estrogen, adding Masteron to the cycle will not fix that.

The Mast will not take his bloat away it just will not add to it. He has to adjust his diet.

yeah, mastern does have AI properties but should definitely not be used in place of an AI. although the masteron didnt exactly dry me out, lowering my e2 did, the masteron hardended me up a bit thus making me look like im less bloated. so far NPP is amazing though i've never used a nandrolone. it seems like im actually gaining mass while on a caloric deficit, just as i had expected with 19nors. on tren, and im sure this is a common thing, can go from 13% bodyfat to 8% and stay the same weight.