NPP + Test P + TBol + Possibly Bold

[Mel Gibson]

Hello guys, this is my first post here, i found this forum by searching a similar cycle and i ended up here
Age : 25
Height: 6'2
Weight: 200lbs
BF: 8~9%
This isn't my first time roiding

I plan on doing a 12 week cyle using:
1-12 600~700mg/w Test p
1-12 600mg/w NPP
1-4/9-12 500mg TBOL 100mgED

For protection i'll be using HCG 1-12 500ui/w and Aromasin 1-16 2x/w
for tpc i plan on using Aromasin as i said and Tamox

I have a question, should i add Bold into it?Or would it be a waste of money since i'd be using it for just 10 weeks or 12 at most thus i wouldn't get the best from it
Any other suggestion is welcome, thank you guys.

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome

I d say hold off bold. as it s slower than Xmas to get right and then at substantial doses....

 

[Mel Gibson]

Welcome

I d say hold off bold. as it s slower than Xmas to get right and then at substantial doses....

Do you think i should increase the intake of test?i'm thinking about 700mg...problem is i'm bit worried about the side effects, last year i've used tren and everything went perfect until the last 10 days when i increased it to 660mg/w and i got acne all over my face/chest
and about the rest of the cycle, do you think it's ok or would you change anything?

 

[Roush]

I don't see any point in adding EQ to that cycle.. If you were looking for a third injectable to add in though, I'd go for Masteron.. It will work well with the other compounds your running and it will shine at your low bf %

 

[Mel Gibson]

I don't see any point in adding EQ to that cycle.. If you were looking for a third injectable to add in though, I'd go for Masteron.. It will work well with the other compounds your running and it will shine at your low bf %

Thanks for the response
i forgot to mention that these are the only possible gears i can get right now, and i only have less than 9g of npp so i can't run with it for much longer
anyway even if i had the option of master i think i wouldn't got with it since i don't have the best hair genetics hehehe...

 

[Roush]

Well your gonna get plenty out of NPP and test prop at those levels and at that time frame..

I've ran deca several times and I gotta say adding in NPP to my current cycle as a fast acting nandrolone to front load my deca is working well.. I'm not waiting 8 weeks,, 4 weeks in and it's all kicked in. Big fan of NPP.. Again I don't think you'll need the EQ in that cycle,, you'll just unnecessarily raise hematocrit levels with little added benefit

 

[hiram1st]

Aromasin should be dosed ED and not in your PCT.

PCT should contain tomax/nolva and clomid they work in synergy.

Are you planning on liver protection like NAC?

Your not new to roiding but here's a thread you might find useful:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[Mel Gibson]

Aromasin should be dosed ED and not in your PCT.

PCT should contain tomax/nolva and clomid they work in synergy.

Are you planning on liver protection like NAC?

Your not new to roiding but here's a thread you might find useful:

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

How about letro for pct?wouldn't aromasin ed kill a bit of my gains?

 

[Mel Gibson]

Welp, for some reason i posted but it didn't appear...
Anyway maybe i'll have acccess to primo, and i'm a real fan of this drug, do you think if i added it for 12wks aboug 600m/w instead of bold would i have significant gains?

Aromasin should be dosed ED and not in your PCT.

PCT should contain tomax/nolva and clomid they work in synergy.

Are you planning on liver protection like NAC?

Your not new to roiding but here's a thread you might find useful:

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Would aroma ed kill a bit of my gains?

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I agree, in that cycle I'd specifically prefer Masteron over the EQ...NPP+Masteron = Good stack from what I've read and will be using it soon.0

Aromasin won't kill gains, it should help reduce water retention which is not actually muscle, via keeping e2 at bay.

 

[hiram1st]

Welp, for some reason i posted but it didn't appear...
Anyway maybe i'll have acccess to primo, and i'm a real fan of this drug, do you think if i added it for 12wks aboug 600m/w instead of bold would i have significant gains?



Would aroma ed kill a bit of my gains?

No.like staunchest said keeps e2 in check

 

[Mel Gibson]

thanks, but what about the primo option i mentioned?

 

[Roush]

thanks, but what about the primo option i mentioned?

Heck yeah,, Add 600 mg of primo to that stack. Should get great results



But just like the mast it's a dht and may effect the hairline

 

[Mel Gibson]

Thanks guys, one question
How do i make sure my primo is legit?
i remember that good test usually looks like piss and tren is red, but what about primo?and npp?

 

[Roush]

Thanks guys, one question
How do i make sure my primo is legit?
i remember that good test usually looks like piss and tren is red, but what about primo?and npp?

NPP you'll know is legit cause its fast acting and after 4 weeks you'll feel nandrolone running through your veins and feel strong as fuk and invincible in the gym. .

Primo - you just got to trust your source (or get a script).. or get a lab max test kit and test it.. Primo is slow and steady,, you will notice an increase in the feeling of well being and confidence though.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Hell yeah, NPP will provide everything Deca does just much quicker but no way to know.

Test can be any colour, it is not a good indicator, I've had test that is almogst yellow gold in colour and really stands out next to my pharma test which is as clear as fuck (says on the packet caster oil is used, is viscous and colourless but it's still test).

Colour of AAS typically will depend on the oil being used and the cooking process and to a lesser extent the hormone and is not a good gauge of how well it is.

Tren however is that AAS that typically is associated with a darker brown/red/rusty colour. It is due to the highly rust coloured metabolites of Trenbolone itself oxidising, and explains why your piss goes darker on it (and why it is not actually renal toxic). So typically, the darker the Tren is the more you could say it has oxidised and shouldn't go by quality of colour. Yet, I've just happened to notice the more darker, brown, amber the Tren I get is the more strong it seems to be...

The best Tren I ever ran was this real gold brown looking oil... The label was spelt wrong, but it blew out the fancy labelling on the other shit I used and that stuff had a lighter colour. Damn it was strong at only 50mg ED.... shit.

 

[Mel Gibson]

Hell yeah, NPP will provide everything Deca does just much quicker but no way to know.

Test can be any colour, it is not a good indicator, I've had test that is almogst yellow gold in colour and really stands out next to my pharma test which is as clear as fuck (says on the packet caster oil is used, is viscous and colourless but it's still test).

Colour of AAS typically will depend on the oil being used and the cooking process and to a lesser extent the hormone and is not a good gauge of how well it is.

Tren however is that AAS that typically is associated with a darker brown/red/rusty colour. It is due to the highly rust coloured metabolites of Trenbolone itself oxidising, and explains why your piss goes darker on it (and why it is not actually renal toxic). So typically, the darker the Tren is the more you could say it has oxidised and shouldn't go by quality of colour. Yet, I've just happened to notice the more darker, brown, amber the Tren I get is the more strong it seems to be...

The best Tren I ever ran was this real gold brown looking oil... The label was spelt wrong, but it blew out the fancy labelling on the other shit I used and that stuff had a lighter colour. Damn it was strong at only 50mg ED.... shit.

hmm so there's no way to know?not even an indicator?

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Not for injectables as far as I know. Oral steroids yes.

From what I have gathered, I bet most guys wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Masteron and Primobolan in the same fashion most wouldn't be able to distinguish Anavar from Winny and even methyltest being faked as dbol.

Chances are your Primo is Masteron, it is much like Anavar in that is faked with the cheaper compound being Winny. Regardless it looks like Masteron would be the better one on paper that Primo it apppeals a lot more to me for some reason.

also you said, 1-4/9-12 500mg TBOL 100mgED, 100mg ED works out to 700mg per week, you're not taking a break from the orals on the weekend are you? Will mess with the blood levels of hormone due to half-life of orals.

 

[Mel Gibson]

Not for injectables as far as I know. Oral steroids yes.

From what I have gathered, I bet most guys wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Masteron and Primobolan in the same fashion most wouldn't be able to distinguish Anavar from Winny and even methyltest being faked as dbol.

Chances are your Primo is Masteron, it is much like Anavar in that is faked with the cheaper compound being Winny. Regardless it looks like Masteron would be the better one on paper that Primo it apppeals a lot more to me for some reason.

also you said, 1-4/9-12 500mg TBOL 100mgED, 100mg ED works out to 700mg per week, you're not taking a break from the orals on the weekend are you? Will mess with the blood levels of hormone due to half-life of orals.

i'll take only in the days i'll be lifting so thats 500mg/w at most
so how do i know tbol is legit by the looks?

 

[STAUNCHED427]

i'll take only in the days i'll be lifting so thats 500mg/w at most
so how do i know tbol is legit by the looks?

It's not HGH. Orals need 1-2x daily dosing.