OldSchoolLifter's Peptide & Anabolic Assault

OldSchoolLifter

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I posted this on other sites a few months back, And wanted to share here. Enjoy

Hey guys, I wanted to talk to you about a cycle I put together for a friend a few months ago, At the time he was 5***8217;10 225lbs and 20% Body Fat Making his Lean Body Mass at 180lbs, so after going through some options I put together a cycle for him that can be used for Bulking as well as cutting, and is a sure fire way to shred some fat and preserve and gain muscle. The end result after 90 days is a 5***8217;10 212lb guy at 13% take a little, and he is still going! ( trying to convince him for a picture, but for now you will need to believe me )


After I layout the cycle for you, I will explain to you why I chose each individual compound, and give you a better insight on the peptides and aas Chosen.


I call it

OldSchoolLifter Peptide- Anabolic Assault


1-13 Ghrp-2, 100mcg ***8211; SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
1-13 Mod-Grf(1-29) 100mcg SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
3-13 Test Prop 150mg/eod
3-13 Tren Ace 100mg/eod
3-13 Ana Anavar (var) 50mg/ed
1-13 - Clen 120mcg 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off Protocol.


Some of you are wondering or thinking what makes this different?? The secret is in the Peptides. As you know one the most significant things people notice while on Synthetic HGH is rapid fat loss. Do you know why this occurs? Lipolysis, and the release of FFA***8217;s (free fatty acids), caused by the pulse increased Growth Hormone in your body. This is turn mobilizes excess fat, and limits it from re attaching and inhibiting your body as fat, But you still need to utilize the Free Fatty Acids and burn them off, or else after re consumption of food, they reattach, only to be released again on your next dose.

Before we Go any further, and talk about dosing protocols, and methods used to gain rapid fat loss, Lets go into what GHRP-2 and Mod-Grf(1-29) really is.


GHRP or (Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide) has 4 different options to choose from, in my experiment, I used Ghrp-2 this is a second Generation GHRP, The others are Ghrp-6, Hexarelin, and Ipamorelin.

Ghrp-2 Is more potent than GHRP-6 and Ipramorelin, GHRP-2 has a stronger effect on prolactin and Cortisol at all dosing levels rising to the high normal range. It has minimal Gastric affects, and should not cause stomach discomfort or major hunger pains like its counterpart GHRP-6, an effective dose of GHRP-2 is the same as all GHRP***8217;s @ 1mcg per 2.2lbs of body weight, most users however dose at the saturation dose which is 100mcg. With GHRP-2 you do not need to cycle off, as your body will not desensitize to the compound.


And quickly the others

Hexarelin is just as strong as GHRP-2 but affects Prolactin, and Cortisol at much higher levels, Hexarelin has been shown to desensitize no matter the dose, and no matter the length of time used, and can happen at any moment, If this does happen, stopping use for a 8-10 day period will allow your body to utilize the compound once more. Hexarelin does affect gastric mobility and can cause stomach discomfort in users. Saturation dose is 100mcg

Ipamorelin is as potent as GHRP-6 , and does not affect prolactin or cortisol at any dose. Ipramorelin does not desensitize, and use can be on going, without losing effect. Ipamorelin does not cause any gastric issues, and will not increase hunger to the point of pain. Out of the 4 GHRP***8217;s Ipamorelin is the safest, and has the least amount of sides than any of the GHRP***8217;s on the market today, however, GHRP-2 and Hexarelin are the most potent form of GHRP. Saturation dose is 100mcg

GHRP-6 is as potent as Ipamorelin, and does not affect prolactin and cortisol under doses of 100mcg, but only affects these hormones minimally above 100mcg, GHRP-6 does affect stomach, and can cause major stomach discomfort in some users, It also increase Appetite greatly, and normally within 30 min after administration, Most use GHRP-6 to bulk with because of the increase in appetite. Saturation Dose is 100mcg

Mod-Grf(1-29) Or more commonly known as CJC-1295 W/O Dac, ( but really isn***8217;t lol ) Is a GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) Taken alone will be as effective as drinking your Test E, ( not effective ) but when combined with a GHRP it nullifies the presence of Somatostatin which would halt a GH pulse. Think of Mof-Grf as an Amplifier, it takes the GH pulsed caused by GHRP***8217;s and Amplifies its effect making the GH pulse received even greater. All the while turning ***8220;off***8221; the presence of Somatostatin and allowing a high GH pulse. Getting Modified GRF is important because regular GRF such as cjc-1293 degrades very rapidly once injected, and the end result is a 4% usability, Modified GRF is Tetra Substituted. Because of 4 amino acid substitutions it will not rapidly metabolize in plasma and will make its way to the pituitary where it will affect growth hormone release, and the end result is a 90% plus usability in the blood stream.

Okay enough of that, we could go into the science of it all, but the purpose of this is to open your eyes to a new form of cycling, that we all can benefit from. The science part we can touch on later.


Now a lot of you over the years have read about GH being the kind of muscle growth and fat loss, but most of you cannot afford the required 6 month minimum, and or just can***8217;t justify the cost, I don***8217;t blame you! The reason HGH has such a pronounced effect on fat loss, is because it induces lipolysis which creates a release of FFA***8217;s ( Free Fatty Acids ) Into the blood stream, mobilizing these fats allows the user to burn them much more effectively, even without cardio, a simple eca stack during the FFA release will result in the mobilized fats being burned. Now if the user consumes high amounts of fats, and or carbs within 1 hour after administration the FFA release is halted. Proteins do not affect the release.



You can mimic these fat loss affects buy creating GH pulses in your day with GHRP/Mod-Grf Stack. And at less than half the cost, what is stopping you? A 100mcg Dose of GHRP/Mod-Grf can result in a natural GH pulse of close to 15iu at its highest point 30 min after injection, over the course of 2 hours the pulse starts to decline back to base levels. Not only will you enjoy a nice FFA release allowing you to burn fats, but now you are increasing your pituitary glands GH pulses naturally, resulting in improved muscle growth, better sleep, and joint and tissue repair***8230; HMM doesn***8217;t these effects sounds very similar to Synthetic GH?

The Protocol


Now, the recommend protocol on taking these Peptides is Morning upon Wake (Fasted) Post workout, and Pre Bed.
The reason we dose it like so, is to take advantage of the FFA and GH pulses at significant times of the day.
For example, If you are a coffee drinker, You wake up and take your morning fasted dose of GHRP/Mod-Grf you now have induced an FFA release, and during that first hour you have had a couple cups of coffee, that caffeine will start acting like a thermogenic burning off those fats that were stored from the day before! You can even take it a step further, and do morning fasted Cardio after your dose, and burn even more!

Now the Post Workout Dose, Dosing within 20min post workout will extend the Anabolic window due to the increase in GH in the blood, as well as significantly increasing IGF-1 levels resulting in your body***8217;s ability to consume more useable proteins, and quickly repair the damaged tissue***8217;s from your workout, making them stronger, and fuller resulting in muscle gain!

The Pre Bed dose, will give you a better more rested sleep, the higher levels of GH will allow you to achieve REM faster, and longer. As well as the Release in FFA***8217;S will keep your body anabolic as you sleep, No more catabolic worries while you***8217;re sleeping!. Also being that the human body naturally creates the most amount of GH, and muscle growth while you***8217;re sleeping, supplementing peptides to increase the amount of GH while you***8217;re sleeping, will result in much faster recovery, soft tissue and joint repair, and a sense of well being, all that are paramount to building new muscle.


Now if you want to save a little more cash, dosing at the two most important times, PWO and Pre Bed will still result, in great benefits, but Ideally 3 or more times through the day would be your best option.


Taken alone, without the use of anabolics is another great option when cutting, we take anabolics to maintain muscle mass while on calorie restricted diets. During the FFA release caused by the pulse of GH, those mobilized fats are now being used as a source of energy, keeping you full, and maintaining an anabolic environment, resulting in little to no muscle loss while on restrictions.

Conclusion:

You can use these Peps for bulking or for cutting they are extremely versatile, If you are not worried about the FFA release, eat away 30 min after, you will still benefit from the GH pulse, but the FFA release will be halted. In the case above, easting was only restricted for 2 hours after morning dose, the rest of the doses I did not limit when he could eat, as long as it was 30 min after injection to gain full benefit from the GH pulses. That alongside a clean diet, clen, and minimal cardio. With the help of Test, Tren and Anavar (var) his results are outstanding. He is currently off cycle, and on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but still using the peptides to continue his fat loss journey.


I am doing the opposite, I am using them to bulk with, Dbol, Test,Tren, and peps, alongside 1mg folli next week! And my results have been excellent as well. I can***8217;t wait to introduce the Myostatin Blocker.


If you haven***8217;t already, grab you enough for 30 days, I assure you even within that short period of time, you will benefit from fat loss, improved sleep, better joint health, and Muscle recovery.



Signing off

OSL
 
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Wow that was an amazing post brother! We are really lucky to have you on this forum now!!! Quick question how do these peps help in the bulking phase???
 
Wow that was an amazing post brother! We are really lucky to have you on this forum now!!! Quick question how do these peps help in the bulking phase???

Thank you! Im a member and mod on many boards, but OLOGY is a great board with many active members, so id like to hang out here for a while.

As for using these peps for bulking, look at the benefits, and tell me how it will aid you in your bulking.

For starters, if you used GHRP-6 rather than GHRP-2 you can increase your appetite, and eat more than you usual would, resulting in more protien, and caloric intake, making for a better bulk.

now if you dont use GHRP-2 and have no problem eating, during a bulk phase, your muslce recovery with the peps are much higher, because of the constant pulses your body is making of GH every 2-3 hours.

Thats why its recommended to inject the combo at least 3 times per day.

Peak plasma levels start at 20 min, but remain for 2.5 hours later, after 3 hours if your inclined to do so you can pin the combo again, and again, every 3 hours.

Keep in mind, that for the first 20 min do not consume any foods, or at least any carbs or fats for that matter, protien wont blunt the affects but to be safe take a 20 min fast after dosing to allow your body to peak to higher levels of GH

Now there is the power approach, you can inject 3x daily, but increase the dose to 200mcg each and watch what it can do.

While the saturation dose is around 2,2 lbs per mcg, if you go above saturation you are now entering a much higher pulse and realm of active GH in the body at multiple times of the day.

For bulking Id dose

Morning. Post workout. pre bed all at 150-200mcg, and in around 2-3 weeks you will start noticing the affects you have on recovery, sleep, muslce density, and strength.

try to run for 60 days before coming to a conclusion on your protocol. like GH these take time, but once actively working, and combined with a good diet, and aas can be amazing.
 
Thanks, OSL. That was very informative. Now, to save the cash to be able to do something like this!
 
Hell if you wait till it's on sale again it would only be about $100 to run the peps for like 65 days. Not too bad at all! Especially compared to GH
 
Hell if you wait till it's on sale again it would only be about $100 to run the peps for like 65 days. Not too bad at all! Especially compared to GH


10mg of each @ 100mcg per day will last you 33 days at 3 doses daily.

Not bad at all guys. and Combine it with some LR3 and you could be cooking.
 
Very good info. Something to keep in mind is ghrp2 and ipam have been found to have a higher saturation dose and can benefit up to around 400mcg without excessively diminished returns but with ghrp2 you also greatly increase the sides.

I typically use 100-100 up to 200/200 but my pwo dose I go higher on the ghrp and substitute hex a few times a week.

Great post.
 
Nice break down for the guys to understand!

Quick question Oldschool, you mention folli toward the end. Do you feel you obtained legit folli and if so how were the results of that?
 
Good question ZEEK because that is a peptide chain that is very difficult to make and the price would be closer to the thousands for a useable amounts.

My buddy ran folli and all it did was make him sick, send him to the bathroom immediately. Myo hmp actually worked well for him though.
 
Nice break down for the guys to understand!

Quick question Oldschool, you mention folli toward the end. Do you feel you obtained legit folli and if so how were the results of that?


The outfit in my opinion I got my Folli from was legit I only ran 1mg of it, but I did manage to gain another 8-10lbs in the last 10 days of my 14 weaker.

I know folli is still hard to come by and when you see it its either very expensive, and or you need to question its integrity, but at the time I gave it a shot, and it worked out. I do plan to try other outfits and see if I can gain the same effect.
 
Very good info. Something to keep in mind is ghrp2 and ipam have been found to have a higher saturation dose and can benefit up to around 400mcg without excessively diminished returns but with ghrp2 you also greatly increase the sides.

I typically use 100-100 up to 200/200 but my pwo dose I go higher on the ghrp and substitute hex a few times a week.

Great post.


yes! with Ipam and GHRP-2 you can increase the dose much higher an still justify the gains, BUT GHRP-2 at higher doses will start playing hell on your prolactin after a period of time.
 
Great info about the peptides !! Awesome to have people like you around to teach us rookies :)

Although,

Am i correct in reading your looking to run Tren Ace & Anavar (var) for 10 weeks straight, together ?

Do you feel like that could impact your liver profile ?
 
10 weeks of Anavar (var) and tren is perfectly fine as long as your body handles it. You need blood work to verify. The real issue with that will be lipids not liver but this is a pretty average set up.

OSL you are correct sir that will rapidly increase prolactin and cortisol at the higher doses and sticking to your listed protocol is a great option. For me, I add some caber to tren or deca so I go higher on that dose while on the caber and hope that cortisol is not an issue with the added test. I may be wrong but I can hope. Lol.

Again very good break down.
 
Nicely done....

Ay my age I was hesitant to start another PINNING supplement...but...

I ve added ghrp 6 and a cj to my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) to bump appetite mainly, but also to see if these are for real in helping gh release.

If zeek and User are behind them I m sure there s some validity to it....

Nice thread..
 
Nicely done....

Ay my age I was hesitant to start another PINNING supplement...but...

I ve added ghrp 6 and a cj to my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) to bump appetite mainly, but also to see if these are for real in helping gh release.

If zeek and User are behind them I m sure there s some validity to it....

Nice thread..

Thank you Teutonic, and everyone else. Its really an effective combo.

Before Higher doses was thought to bring back non justifiable returns. But some recent studies have shows if you can go even higher, and well past the point of saturation, you can benefit from them even more.
 
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