Once youre dialed in on TRT and cruising, how do you blast properly?

[MeanGreen]

Interested in knowing how to blast properly while on TRT...

Say you're cruising on TRT with 200mg test cyp per week along with anastrozole
and hcg, and you're dialed in, and you want to blast...

1) recommended increase of cyp?
2) recommended increase of ai?
3) does hcg need to increase?
4) do I need to introduce anything new?

5) How long should a blast be?
6) How soon should a blast stop before getting annual checkup blood panel?

 

[3J]

1. 500mg
2. likely .25 to .5mg eod
3. no
4. no
5. 12-16 weeks
6. 6 weeks

 

[PrinceDianabol]

I personally prefer to leave my entire TRT protocol right where it is and add in other non aromatizing compounds. Keeps things simpler as you don't have to try to dial in a new AI dosage for the extra TT.

Some people like to just up the test & AI though. To each their own.

 

[MeanGreen]

1. 500mg
2. likely .25 to .5mg eod
3. no
4. no
5. 12-16 weeks
6. 6 weeks

So just to clarify, you're saying add 500 to the 200 to make 700 per week?

 

[MeanGreen]

I personally prefer to leave my entire TRT protocol right where it is and add in other non aromatizing compounds. Keeps things simpler as you don't have to try to dial in a new AI dosage for the extra TT.

Some people like to just up the test & AI though. To each their own.

What would you recommend and would the strength & size gains be better that way?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

So just to clarify, you're saying add 500 to the 200 to make 700 per week?

Nope, simply raise the dose to 500mg. Unless of course you wanted 700mg.. but for a first blast, 500mg/week is plenty.

What would you recommend and would the strength & size gains be better that way?

Most compounds are stronger than test, but not all. They each have their own benefits though.

I recall you haven't blasted/used AAS before? With no experience your best bet may be to just increase the test, but since you're on TRT you get the benefits of not having to worry about suppression. In our case you could simply add something mild but nice like Anavar (anywhere from 50-100mg/day) for 6- 8 weeks.
Or if you wanted an injectable, something like primo/eq/nandrolone etc. would be great.

The reason I avoid high test now is because my tendons are quite weak from using high test for so long and lifting heavy weights. High levels of test degrade collagen synthesis and heavy lifting breaks them down somewhat. Normally they would repair stronger (just like the muscle tissue) but high levels of test really impair that. So high test cycles = the muscular strength of a gorilla with the connective tissue of an old man. Doesn't help at all when you really want to lift heavy and keep pushing things.

Keep in mind, most people never have an issue with tendons provided you don't lift stupid weights and focus on good form. I had to learn the hard way when I was younger unfortunately lol. So I stick to compounds that don't impair collagen and try to stick with ones that actually benefit them; Anavar, Nandrolone, EQ (Boldenone.)

Every compound is slightly different, they all have their pro's and con's so make sure you do plenty of reading into whatever you go with beforehand. For example, EQ (Boldenone) raises RBC production quite rapidly so the need to donate blood on it becomes more necessary otherwise your blood can get too thick. Nandrolone (NPP/ Deca) is a 19-nor which will cause a rise in Prolactin levels (not good) so you need to be aware of how to combat that should those sides appear.

Anavar is AWESOME and carries little to no bad sides, so it's a great start for TRT guy's. It's not quite as powerful as test but it doesn't bloat you at all and gives a nice vascularity. It also helps mobilize visceral fat (around the organs) so a great addition on a cut. I love it on bulks too though. End of the day, do some reading around & come up with a compound/cycle you'd like to try and post up here and we can give feedback.

Sorry for the rambling lol, hope this helps though

 

[MeanGreen]

Sorry for the rambling lol, hope this helps though

Very helpful and informative post. Thanks, bro.

 

[Gbrad]

Bro I noticed your thread underneath this one was the "I'm about to start trt". God forbid I sound like your mom (I'm a libertarian for Gods sake), but please remember it takes time to dial in properly. Not weeks, months. I would not give too much thought to blasting already. The temptation is definitely there, but you will be asking for TROUBLE if you do not take the time to dial in properly. In my case it was a good 9 months before I knew what dose of test, hcg, etc put me at total t wise. Estrogen was a bigger challenge because I seemingly needed just under .25mg per week or my levels would creep down over time. Blasting at that point would have me all over the place guessing and spending $$ and time doing bloods on a constantly moving target.

So again I say dial in and know your shite before blasting...and best wishes on the journey

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Yes, absolutely^ Don't lose your prescription being silly trying to blast too early. Wait until all things are dialed in & use the time to read as much as you can. Also don't forget, you will get a decent body recomposition from TRT alone anyhow.

 

[luckypaul]

A blast is no different than a cycle except you don't need pct. No pct is the best part.

Why use hcg?

 

[MeanGreen]

Gbrad and Prince,

I agree that getting dialed in first is top priority, which is why I titled the thread "Once you're dialed in on TRT and cruising..."

That being said, I appreciate your posts about its importance. As I am just starting my TRT journey, I still have a lot to learn, including how to dial in and how long that actually takes.

But with other threads talking about blasting, the thought did cross my mind, so I started this thread.

I am thankful that I have the resource of this website and the experience of its member to learn from.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Gbrad and Prince,

I agree that getting dialed in first is top priority, which is why I titled the thread "Once you're dialed in on TRT and cruising..."

That being said, I appreciate your posts about its importance. As I am just starting my TRT journey, I still have a lot to learn, including how to dial in and how long that actually takes.

But with other threads talking about blasting, the thought did cross my mind, so I started this thread.

I am thankful that I have the resource of this website and the experience of its member to learn from.

Whoops, totally overlooked the title of the thread mate haha! My bad.

Dialing in is different for everybody. I actually managed to get it all fine tuned in about 2months. Most people take a little longer though. I was just lucky my dose put me just shy of 1000ng/dl TT for trough reading and the e2 only slightly elevated. I added Aromasin and tested 4 weeks later and everything bang on lol...

This forum has been a huge asset to many people. I've changed my life around so much since being here and learning about nutrition, physiology, hormones, bloodwork etc... so much to learn. Stick around, learn as much as you can and in time pay it forward by helping others

 

[Hypnotix]

A blast is no different than a cycle except you don't need pct. No pct is the best part.

Why use hcg?

HCG to keep testicles at a normal size and to backfill DHEA and Pregnenolone. Duh bro!

 

[bigben66]

Gbrad and Prince,

I agree that getting dialed in first is top priority, which is why I titled the thread "Once you're dialed in on TRT and cruising..."

That being said, I appreciate your posts about its importance. As I am just starting my TRT journey, I still have a lot to learn, including how to dial in and how long that actually takes.

But with other threads talking about blasting, the thought did cross my mind, so I started this thread.

I am thankful that I have the resource of this website and the experience of its member to learn from.

It took me over a year to get my TRT protocol finely-tuned bro - do NOT rush to blast... also bear in mind, you will make good gains just on a TRT dose initially... I'd wait until these gains plateau before expanding your repertoire.

You also need to assess how often your TRT doc will be taking blood tests - if it is regular, then keep the Cyp at TRT dose and cycle other compounds, if he is blasé and doesn't want regular bloods then go down the route of raising your Cyp dose.

It's personal choice, and purely specific to your own circumstances.

 

[MeanGreen]

A blast is no different than a cycle except you don't need pct. No pct is the best part.

Why use hcg?

From Nightmare007:

HCG :-
The main focus with HCG is to restore the normal ability of the testes to respond to endogenous luteinizing hormone. After a long period of inactivity, this ability may have been seriously reduced. In such a state testosterone levels may not reach a normal point, even though the release of endogenous LH has been resumed. Many who have suffered severe testicular shrinkage may be able to relate, as it is often some time before normal testicle size and feelings of virility are restored if ancillary drugs had not been used. The excessive stimulation brought forth by administration of HCG can likewise cause the testicles to rapidly return to their normal size and level of activity. We are not simply looking for it to fix the problem however, as the resulting high testosterone level can itself trigger negative feedback inhibition at the hypothalamus. Estrogen production is also heightened with the use of HCG, due to its ability to increase aromatase activity in the Leydig***8217;s cells. This is due to the main action of HCG, namely the increase of cycIicAMP (a secondary messenger that regulates cellular activity). When stimulated by HCG, the ability of the testes to aromatize androgens could potentially be heightened several times greater than normal. This also may inhibit testosterone production, so we therefore use HCG only as a quick shock to the testes.