Opinion on First cycle PCT

[Harvie]

Planning on doing my first cycle of Test Ena @ 500mg/week for 12-15 weeks.

My post cycle therapy (pct), Im planning on Clomid, w/ Nolvadex on hand.

Im curious If will Clomid be enough?

Looking to make Lean muscle gains.

Stats are 23 y/o 5'11, 190 lbs, 14-15% bf.

Lifting for 3 years. Seriously for 2years.

I'd like oppinions on my post cycle therapy (pct), I figure Test Ena will be a good start. It will help because I know I have low Test (bloodtests) from losing 240 lbs from 18-20 years old.

Ideas?

Since this cycle is not too expensive, I've thrown around a Dbol kicker idea, possible more Test Ena for a second cycle w/ more Clomid.

If anyone has some insight for a newbie who wants to try and put on size, After going from 420 lbs @ 18 w/o to 177 lbs @ 20, to 195 @ 23. Let me know?

What can I expect from the Test Ena? Soreness? Fatique? Energy? Confidence? Libido? strength? I have a general Idea but looking for some direct feedback.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Cyborg45]

where's your AI?

 

[mispronounced]

how much clomid?

and what do you mean you have nolva on hand? are you running that for post cycle therapy (pct) or not?

 

[claricae86]

Over here the standard PCT is nolva and clomid it seems. Go over to elitefitness and you'll get a a completely different answer. Answers over there generally involve

Post cycle/unleashed
low dose of clomid
DAA
and Forma Stanzol for an AI

Generally speaking most people come off of a test e only cycle fairly easy with good ol' clomid/nolva mix. I don't like the idea of running two serms so I won't be going that route for my current test e cycle but YMMV.

I would drop the dbol idea and grab some arimidex or aromasin to add to your cycle. Also, how is your diet?

I spend so much freaking money on food, you might want to save a little extra cash for the ridiculous amount of meat your are about to start consuming.

 

[Harvie]

From my understanding Nolvadex is for Gyno, correct? With no gyno, Nolvadex wouldn't be neccessary?
And Clomid... recommendations? Im unsure at this point about my Clomid plan. I gotta find my email here haha

This is what I am wondering about... my post cycle therapy (pct), is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) needed? Im here for info.

 

[claricae86]

Nolvadex is a SERM not an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), this seems to be confused a lot.

Just sent you a long winded PM that should give you a bunch of basic info. Hope that helps bro

 

[Harvie]

Ty sir. Going over it now. I don't want to come off as an idiot, but there is a great deal of into to go through, and a lot of compounds to understand completely. I've been gathering information for a few months now. Just clearing up the loose ends in order to complete a cycle safely and properly. My diet is great. Obviously I'll need to up my calories significantly when Im on the cycle. BECAUSE, I lose 240 lbs, my diet is very clean... even still. im use to weighing my food, eating very clean (brown rice/whole grains/potatoes/yams etc and lean meat) without sauces and extra fats. Im currently running a 40/40/20 diet, which after a long time of struggling I have managed to up my carbohydrate intake. (fear of gaining weight).

 

[4everBulking]

your clomid/nolvadex should be ran like this....

clomid-50/50/50/50
nolvadex-40/40/20/20

and AI-Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD.

 

[Harvie]

Also, If Clomid, and Nolva are both Serms.... Clomid + Forma Stanzol would be better? It would cover more angles? As in Clomid for Test production, and Forma Stanzol for... AI?

 

[claricae86]

Forma, Armidex, Aromasin- any of them will work fine as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but Forma is a lot newer and not talked about as frequently.

 

[Harvie]

Clomid 50/50/50/50 = 4 weeks.... I assume 4 weeks after last jab? Same w/ Nolva or Armidex, or Forma Stanzol?

 

[claricae86]

Wait two weeks after your last pin to start PCT.

Test E has is a long ester and will be in your system for a couple weeks after your last pin.

 

[Harvie]

Awesome! ty what about What can I expect from the test Ena? Soreness? Fatique? Energy? Confidence? Libido? strength? I have a general Idea but looking for some direct feedback.

Injection sites I've heard does not give any benefit to the site itself.... and larger muscles are better? ie Glutes/Quads?

 

[Harvie]

bump

 

[rippedliving]

your clomid/nolvadex should be ran like this....

clomid-50/50/50/50
nolvadex-40/40/20/20

and AI-Arimidex 0.25mgs EOD.

Make sure you follow this, this is a proper pct.

 

[BEASTMUSCLE]

Awesome! ty what about What can I expect from the test Ena? Soreness? Fatique? Energy? Confidence? Libido? strength? I have a general Idea but looking for some direct feedback.

Injection sites I've heard does not give any benefit to the site itself.... and larger muscles are better? ie Glutes/Quads?

Strength will go up, your metabolism will boost, you'll be getting aroused more, you'll feel better somewhat, you'll gain muscle, lose fat, appetite will go up, a lot of things its worth it.