opinions and helpful tips for me. im green

[Eagles412]

Like I said I am New to this. Any type of helpful tips or passed experiences that will help me out and keep me from coming across any road blocks on my first cycle and making everything run as smooth as possible is extremely welcomed.

Right now I am 20 years old.

5ft9
145 pounds
I eat a ton of calories. Enough for muscle growth.
Highschool I was about 110 pounds.
It seems like things have slowed down for me lately. I'm trying to put on about 15 more pounds of mass and keep it post cycle.
I have researched alot I do not put anything into my body until I know I'm completely ready for it. I have everything down to a T.

Now the fun part. Please do not bash me I have read alot in the past week.


I'm going to take test E 500 mg each week. 250 monday 250 friday.

Clomid for post cycle.
I'm going to go with Gen shi labs. If I'm making a mistake then I would appreciate a heads up but they seem like good quality from what I read.

Now my question is. If I have sides can I take something during my cycle with the test tobjust stop anything further from occuring.

I'm asking for everybodies input on this cycle. I just signed up here and will be active daily from this day forward. I moved into a new area and dont have anyone to familiar to discuss this with. Like I said I'm green so don't bash me. Thanks for the help

Now my question for you.

 

[hiram1st]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...lva-both-required-better-chance-recovery.html

Give these a read will give you some idea of what is involved in cycling

You are young to be cycling you haven't reached your full maturaty yet you can really mess yourself up. Your endocrine system is still developing. You can end up on trt for life if you don't recover and that is a gamble every time you shut down.

You need to train and eat properly and get all the growth you can naturally.

 

[SJC]

Jeez Here we go! Whats this, thread 3 this week with a 20 yo wanting to screw himself up?

 

[Megatron28]

Way too young to cycle. Your bring / endocrine system are still developing. Wait until you are 25 years old so that you don't mess them up and have to be on TRT for the rest of your life. Keep growing Natty in the meantime.

 

[Eagles412]

Well said. I have a strict diet and train hard. I didn't think it could interact that much with my body. But then again im on a whole other level here. Thanks for the advice. Now is it just test alone that would mess with my maturity? Or does that include most of all anabolics?

 

[Hypnotix]

Well said. I have a strict diet and train hard. I didn't think it could interact that much with my body. But then again im on a whole other level here. Thanks for the advice. Now is it just test alone that would mess with my maturity? Or does that include most of all anabolics?

It'll be all, even down to Prohormones, SARMS and Peptides. Just stick to all natural. Take what money you were going to spend on drugs, and buy a package from 3J. I think he still may have his Christmas Sale going on, hopefully he'll chime in and talk to you. 145 is pretty light to be considering steroids bud.. You could easily get 175-185 I'd think by this time next year if you really stuck to one of his plans.

 

[Megatron28]

Well said. I have a strict diet and train hard. I didn't think it could interact that much with my body. But then again im on a whole other level here. Thanks for the advice. Now is it just test alone that would mess with my maturity? Or does that include most of all anabolics?

Give this thread a read. There is some good info on the negative effects of using AAS at too young of an age. Just be patient and we will help you when the time is right.

 

[Eagles412]

3J? I'm going to take your advice

 

[Billegitimate]

Just a matter of time until this post:

"I'm 12 and have been training for 3 weeks and have already hit my genetic potential. I want to run a VAR-only cycle and get swole, and not have to wait for my nuts to drop. I don't know my natty T, no labs, but it's gotta be low since I'm prepubescent. I don't need PCT for a VAR only cycle, and I'll keep my gains and impress the 13 year old chicks, right? RIGHT?!??!? Need ansrs, srsly PLZ!"

Lol at myself.

And when it happens I will once again be amazed at the patience of the senior members who will politely (at least at first) tell the dude he's too young.

 

[Billegitimate]

3J? I'm going to take your advice

Holy Guacamole! That's a great sign! There I went all sarcastic, and now the youth among us steps up to show that all is not lost. Well done, Eagles412!

 

[MJF]

Nobody wants to wait. And to have people say it would be best to wait 5 years really sucks. I get that. But your body is doing enough on its own now that with proper nutrition and workouts, you could make the gains you want natural. I'd save a few bucks and call 3J to see about getting on one of his plans.

You don't see it now, but the worst thing you can do right now is jack up your system so that you end up being on trt forever.

But if, like most young people, you think all the old timers here don't know crap and it'll never happen to you, read and research everything and make sure you get everything right, starting with the stickys here. Lots of good info there. Don't get discouraged if people here steer you away from a cycle and talk to your bro who gets you a few bottles of test and says that's all you need. Research your ai's and pct.

 

[Eagles412]

Lol the criticism was expected but atleast I got an answer we all start somewhere. I wish I had time to impress girls but my life revolves around work and working out. I'll stick to the shakes but bodybuilding is my life and if this is here when I'm ready for it I hope you guys are to. Good luck

 

[Eagles412]

Believe me. I'm alot wiser. Exactly why I signed up. You guys know what your talking about and I wouldnt put it past you. Yes waiting till I reach my full level does suck. But I'm not gonna ruin my body forever just for something short term. I care to much about this.

 

[Eagles412]

I hit 3J up im gonna go with his 12 week program and I'm hitting it hard. Will update on how this goes. It might just be what I need.

 

[Hypnotix]

I hit 3J up im gonna go with his 12 week program and I'm hitting it hard. Will update on how this goes. It might just be what I need.

That's amazing! You will not regret this, but be prepared to eat. Very eye opening to someone who's convinced they're a hard gainer or can't possibly get any bigger. Have fun man, possibly log some of your results, every other week or something on the online journal section?

 

[hiram1st]

That's amazing! You will not regret this, but be prepared to eat.

Eating on his plan is like a work out by itself. Lmao

I'm now growing muscle and losing fat at the same time.

I like op thought I new how to eat and train. What an eye opening experience it's been.

Will be forever greatful for ology and 3j

Looking forward to being one his before and after stories

 

[SJC]

Believe me. I'm alot wiser. Exactly why I signed up. You guys know what your talking about and I wouldnt put it past you. Yes waiting till I reach my full level does suck. But I'm not gonna ruin my body forever just for something short term. I care to much about this.

LOL I almost fell over. That has to be a first in the couple years I've been on O'logy where a youngster said something smart like that. I just hope your serious.

 

[jozifp103]

Late to the party but reading through this thread made my day. Props to OP for taking good advice and making a mature decision. Major props to everyone else who got this kid on the right path with nutrition instead of hormones. You saved this kid a lot of headaches later on.