Oral trenbolone. Does it work?
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jarbulldog
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i have never heard of it
drk_diggler
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Not a good idea.... I personally wouldnt even let the stuff touch my skin...
RRADAM knows his PH's better than anyman i have ever known or read from in my entire life, so i believe him on the "the most powerful known to man".
drk_diggler
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It is multiple amount of times more toxic than cheque drops....
Spartie
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I found this bit of info on the subject interesting:
Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity (Liver Damage). Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. That's why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.
Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2.
What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19-Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our sex drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca Dick (temporary impotence) is a very real threat. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen like testosterone.
While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.
Stacking and Use:
Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.
Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity (Liver Damage). Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. That's why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.
Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2.
What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19-Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our sex drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca Dick (temporary impotence) is a very real threat. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen like testosterone.
While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.
Stacking and Use:
Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.
good post
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Insane_Man
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mranak said:
That's kind of like sayng that dbol is available in a non toxic form in EQ. They are similar but their effects in the body are much different.
I would like to see some real world results on this compund, I know sources do sell it although rare, so somebody had to have used it. Of course I'm not volunteering here.....
I'd take all those exaggerated claims with a grain of salt.
To me saying half a mg would make methyltrien as toxic as 100mg of halo is like when people claim halo is 20 times more anabolic and 50 times more androgenic than test.
What kind of evidence is this based on ? Are there any extra bonds the liver has to work extra in order to deactivate (halo has an extra one from most other orals) ? Is the parent substance (tren) itself so toxic ? What makes it different ?
It's so strange nobody has touched it yet all repeat the same thing.
I'd like to try it ,because i've found from experience that most such myths are b.s.
To me saying half a mg would make methyltrien as toxic as 100mg of halo is like when people claim halo is 20 times more anabolic and 50 times more androgenic than test.
What kind of evidence is this based on ? Are there any extra bonds the liver has to work extra in order to deactivate (halo has an extra one from most other orals) ? Is the parent substance (tren) itself so toxic ? What makes it different ?
It's so strange nobody has touched it yet all repeat the same thing.
I'd like to try it ,because i've found from experience that most such myths are b.s.
GymLift
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What makes it different is that it is 17-alpha-alkylated. And that change is significant; the molecule is no longer trenbolone and the new molecule behaves differently. The molecule doesn't break down into good old trenbolone in the body, either.Gtrack said:
Bill Roberts knows his shit. This is demonstrated by the excellent steroid profiles that he wrote in prior years that have really stood up well these past few years since the profiles were written. He isn't the type to pull shit out of his ass.
If it was an effective and halfway safe molecule, then I really do believe that it would be in greater use today than it is.
But if you are the type that has to try something yourself to find out if it kills you or not than go ahead. Please let us know just before you do and follow up with a report. If you fail to show up for the follow-up report, then we'll assume what happened.
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Insane_Man
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I know sources that have it from time to time. I would really like to hear from someone who used it. I know people aren't buying it then throwing it away.
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