pct after 11 months on test

[horusculture]

I been on for 11 months, but not on cycle the whole time. I did 2 cycles in 11 months but cruised on 200mg inbetween cycles. The first cycle (this wasnt my first cycle ever) was 15 weeks. I did test e @625mg for 16weeks. Eq @800mg for 15 weeks. Tren a @100mg eod for first 6 weeks. And anavar @50mg ed last 6 weeks. Then i cruised on 200mg test e. 4 months later i did an 8 week cycle of test prop 100mg eod and tren a @ 1.5 shots eod of 100mg/ml which comes out to about 450mg week i think. Now im back on test e @ 200mg week. I want to come off and see if i can recover before i continue to stay on test for life. My question is how much hcg should i blast before i start a pct? For my pct i was just going to do nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/25 with aromasin 12.5 eod throughout pct.


PS
i ran aromasin at 12.5 eod throughout both cycles but not while cruising. I took caber while on tren e3d. I used no hcg at all. I gained about 50lbs of muscle.

 

[Matt0071]

Only time will tell, and the only way to really determine if u recovered or not is bloods bro
Was blasting and cruising for about a year and sum and never did recover bro, goodluck man
I did more blasting then cruising

 

[horusculture]

My question isnt about recovery. I fully understood the possibility of not recovering. Truthfully, being on test is good for people that live this body building shit. The only reason i wana come off is im 26 years old n I wana have kids one day. I been gizzin in my grl for 3 mnths str8 and nothing. I think im shooting blanks.

So my question is what kind of pct should I run? Someone suggested doctari pct but i dont know how to do that. I researched it but its confuesing.

 

[3J]

you are going to need hcg

 

[horusculture]

you are going to need hcg

Dude that helps so much lol

 

[3J]

lol... ok.. lets set you up


weeks 1-2

1000mg hcg eog
20mg nolva ed

weeks 3-7
100mg clomid ed first week.. 50 mg the rest of the time

20mg nolva..



take bloods two weeks after its over.. make sure you have estro, test, lh and fsh levels

 

[horusculture]

1000 mg of hcg eod? 20mg nolva ed for 2 weeks

then clomid 100/50/50/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20/20 and use aromasin 12.5 eod?

 

[3J]

never said anything about aromasin

 

[horusculture]

Yea i noticed that. No estrogen blocker for pct? I jus assumed

 

[tbonexl]

Wow...

 

[Matt0071]

If u think u csnt get your girl knocked up on juice think again, bro got my gf pregnant last year and was on a heavy blast man, now my daughter is 5 months old, so people saying u csnt habe kids on juice is bs
If anything recover get bloods done and get your sperm count done as well man
But having sex once or twice a day probably contributed to my gf getting pregnant, only tskes one swimmer and the right timing

 

[3J]

Yea i noticed that. No estrogen blocker for pct? I jus assumed

is that a serious question?? did you see the compounds i recommended??

do some research

 

[jSalud]

If u think u csnt get your girl knocked up on juice think again, bro got my gf pregnant last year and was on a heavy blast man, now my daughter is 5 months old, so people saying u csnt habe kids on juice is bs
If anything recover get bloods done and get your sperm count done as well man
But having sex once or twice a day probably contributed to my gf getting pregnant, only tskes one swimmer and the right timing

I can also vouch for this! Got the ol lady knocked up on week 10 of my cycle.

 

[horusculture]

Yea but week 10 on cycle you should still have a healthy semen count. As opposed to me on 11 mnths . On a typical 8-12 week cycle my balls shrink a lil but not crazy. After 11 months my balls are so small its embarassing and turns myself off lol

I believe that if you run hcg THROUGHOUT ur cycle it keeps fsh lh levels decent so u have a higher possibility of getting her prego

 

[sadpanda]

Hey OP

i am starting my 2nd week of pct after a 9 month blast n cruise

here is what i did (i used hcg on cycle the whole time 250uis e3.5d)


since you used no HCG i would use 1000uis every other day for 20 days (use a trt dose of test p in the mean time and run an AI)

wait 3-4 days

clomid: 100/100/100/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20

I'm just telling you what worked for me/is working for me at the moment.


best of luck.


You will realize str, endurance and recovery will drop, and fullness as well

but don't worry

power through you pct and recover! it will be worth it in the long run

 

[Mad- scientist]

What do you guys think about intra-testicular e2 being built up because of dosages exceeding 1000 iu's of HCG a week. I always heard it is important to stay under 1000 iu's a week of HCG because of that.

 

[sadpanda]

What do you guys think about intra-testicular e2 being built up because of dosages exceeding 1000 iu's of HCG a week. I always heard it is important to stay under 1000 iu's a week of HCG because of that.

" all subjects were given hCG (5000 IU, im, three times weekly) for an additional 4-6 months"

"We conclude that chronic administration of supraphysiological dosages of hCG can stimulate testicular function in man, despite very high E2 levels, and that hCG in these dosages does not lead to severe testicular regression in man. Perhaps a higher dosage of hCG administered to men would replicate the severe testicular suppression reported in experimental animals. (J Clin Endocrinol Metab 56: 720, 1983)"


http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jcem-56-4-720?journalCode=jcem

5000ius 3 weeks weekly for 4-6 months and still no problem


i don't think it should be a problem for a quick blast either

 

[horusculture]

i jus put an order for hcg. my boy gtta some good quality hcg for 1000iu 10 shot bottle. so i was going to run the pct suggested by 3J which was weeks 1-2

week 1-2
1000mg hcg eog
20mg nolva ed

weeks 3-7
100mg clomid ed first week.. 50 mg the rest of the time

20mg nolva..

my question here is should i start hcg 2 weeks after my last test injection? bc im suppose to inject today but if im going to have hcg by like monday i wont take any more test and just start my pct as listed above 2 weeks from my last test shot

 

[China_Wall]

i jus put an order for hcg. my boy gtta some good quality hcg for 1000iu 10 shot bottle. so i was going to run the pct suggested by 3J which was weeks 1-2

week 1-2
1000mg hcg eog
20mg nolva ed

weeks 3-7
100mg clomid ed first week.. 50 mg the rest of the time

20mg nolva..

my question here is should i start hcg 2 weeks after my last test injection? bc im suppose to inject today but if im going to have hcg by like monday i wont take any more test and just start my pct as listed above 2 weeks from my last test shot

Run the hcg during the last week of your cycle and the week after your last inject

Wait 3 weeks after last inject to begin the clomid/nolva, run them for 6 weeks (u are gonna need it)

Because of the duration u were on expect your libido to be tanked for 3 months... Oh, and your balls may never come back to near pre-gear size, but your manhood will.. Eventually

Last, but not least... 50lbs of muscle in 11 months = impossible

 

[horusculture]

Why wait 3 weeks? And how much nolva clomid should I run