PCT for 20 week cycle - need opinions

[Flav]

Hey all,

Here's my cycle:

Week 1 to 9:
Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)

wait a week... then start:

Week 10 to 20:
Test Propionate 150 Every other day
Tren Acetate 100mg Every other day

I need help with both HCG on cycle and PCT (HCG there also?).
I usually run this for a 12 week cycle but since this is 20 weeks, it may need some changes....


- Week 1 to 20: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) - good enough?
- Week 1 to 20: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day or as needed - Opinions?

Pct 4 days later:
Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 - should be longer?
Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20 - should be longer?

Appreciate the insight bros.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Hey all,

Here's my cycle:

Week 1 to 9:
Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)

wait a week... then start:

Week 10 to 20:
Test Propionate 150 Every other day
Tren Acetate 100mg Every other day

I need help with both HCG on cycle and PCT (HCG there also?).
I usually run this for a 12 week cycle but since this is 20 weeks, it may need some changes....


- Week 1 to 20: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total) - good enough?
- Week 1 to 20: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day or as needed - Opinions?

Pct 4 days later:
Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 - should be longer?
Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20 - should be longer?

Appreciate the insight bros.

In bold is perfect.

I'd run pct for 6 weeks in total though.

I find it odd that your switching from enan to prop mid cycle lol. Any reason not to just run prop the whole way through?

 

[Flav]

In bold is perfect.

I'd run pct for 6 weeks in total though.

I find it odd that your switching from enan to prop mid cycle lol. Any reason not to just run prop the whole way through?

Just less pins on my ass
If I ran test-p whole way through, would the first 9 weeks would it simply be 200mg every other day?

Also, I'm thinking of going on a 2week vaca right at the end of this cycle and wont have access to any PCT. So maybe its better to save some Test-E for the end just to extend the time before PCT?
What do you think?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Just less pins on my ass
If I ran test-p whole way through, would the first 9 weeks would it simply be 200mg every other day?

Also, I'm thinking of going on a 2week vaca right at the end of this cycle and wont have access to any PCT. So maybe its better to save some Test-E for the end just to extend the time before PCT?
What do you think?

If your looking for a rough equivalent to 500mg/week, you'd be shooting for 125mg eod, or more simply just 150mg eod although its a bit higher.

Yeah that could work. Try and time your last enanthate pin the day you leave.

 

[Flav]

If your looking for a rough equivalent to 500mg/week, you'd be shooting for 125mg eod, or more simply just 150mg eod although its a bit higher.

Yeah that could work. Try and time your last enanthate pin the day you leave.

Thanks bro, good info there.

So any issues with going from test-e to test-p and then back to test-e for my last shot? Would the test-e need to "build up" for this to work?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Thanks bro, good info there.

So any issues with going from test-e to test-p and then back to test-e for my last shot?

uhhh.. I would just leave it for the tail end. Or just use e the whole way through if you want less pins?

You would need to start the e a minimum of 3 weeks before dropping the prop, preferably 4 weeks... So you'd be pinning both for a while. I'd just go test e throughout, and maybe use prop the first 2-3weeks alongside the e for a kick start.

 

[Flav]

Thanks Prince...
So can I just do this?

Week 1 to 9:
Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)

Week 10 to 20:
Test-E 150 Every other day
Tren Acetate 100mg Every other day

Right at the end of week 20, I go on a vaca for 2 weeks. I can start PCT when I get back. How's that sound?

 

[Onk]

the idea of test e is that you pin it twice a week or once a week if required.

by doing weeks 10-20 EoD you're pinning too much really. You could still use prop for that and have a shorter cycle (and quicker recovery) if that's the case.
Keep it at 2x a week pinning as you did week 1-9.

 

[Flav]

the idea of test e is that you pin it twice a week or once a week if required.

by doing weeks 10-20 EoD you're pinning too much really. You could still use prop for that and have a shorter cycle (and quicker recovery) if that's the case.
Keep it at 2x a week pinning as you did week 1-9.

and do what with the Tren? change to Tren-E?

 

[China_Wall]

Run the test e 500mg per week (2 injections) from start to finish, run the tren a 100mg eod or 50mg ed, weeks 10-20

Stop the hcg one week after last test injection... start pct of clomid/nolva 3 weeks after last injection of test (30 days is good, 45 days is better)

 

[Flav]

Run the test e 500mg per week (2 injections) from start to finish, run the tren a 100mg eod or 50mg ed, weeks 10-20

Stop the hcg one week after last test injection... start pct of clomid/nolva 3 weeks after last injection of test (30 days is good, 45 days is better)

Thanks China.
My understanding is that for the Test-E, I should have to pin twice a week...
So if I pin Monday, I'll have to pin on Thursday next. After that it'll be Monday again, then Thursday, and so on: Monday/Thurs, Mon/Thurs etc.

But the Tren is EoD, so it'll be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday

Essentially, in the 1st week of Test/Tren, I'll have pinned Monday (Test/Tren), Wednesday (Tren), Thursday (Test), Friday (Tren), Sunday (Tren)

Isnt that a bit much?

 

[China_Wall]

I'd just pin the tren a everyday, 50mg at a time

 

[tbonexl]

Thanks China.
My understanding is that for the Test-E, I should have to pin twice a week...
So if I pin Monday, I'll have to pin on Thursday next. After that it'll be Monday again, then Thursday, and so on: Monday/Thurs, Mon/Thurs etc.

But the Tren is EoD, so it'll be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday

Essentially, in the 1st week of Test/Tren, I'll have pinned Monday (Test/Tren), Wednesday (Tren), Thursday (Test), Friday (Tren), Sunday (Tren)

Isnt that a bit much?

Every other day means every other day. Doesn't get a much simpler explanation. You wanted to pin test e every other day so whats the issue now?

 

[Beck-Miester]

if the whole idea of the Test E was to keep the frequency of pins down, I would be tempted to stay with Test E through the whole cycle. I have done 500mg Test E every 5 days on past cycles, and had fine results...in fact I think I will do that on my next cycle too....I have done a Test E and Tren E cycle too...again, good results..

 

[snowpatrol123]

if the whole idea of the Test E was to keep the frequency of pins down, I would be tempted to stay with Test E through the whole cycle. I have done 500mg Test E every 5 days on past cycles, and had fine results...in fact I think I will do that on my next cycle too....I have done a Test E and Tren E cycle too...again, good results..

Now that just sounds too goddamn simple (and logical)

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