PH Advice

[Jeremy107]

I posted a trend bout HDrol but was told it would show up in my military drug screen so unfortunate that isn't the supp and route I need to go. I've taken a PH before and gained a good solid 10 pounds off it. My diet is high carbs high protein at the moment I am a hard gainer for sure. 6'0" 180 lbs right now and looking to get close to 200.diet is 3000-3400 cals a day with plenty if water.

Currently on OT multi vitamin, fish oils, and very rarely use a preworkout.. My question is what is a solid PH for me to get some good gains? The PH I took before was Chaos but just took one bottle instead if the recommended two. I have the ingredients if needed. Also well aware I need a liver supp with the PH I choose to take, looking for a good PH from experience!! Thanks for the help

 

[Jeremy107]

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[ryand]

You should never use a pro-hormone without a testosterone base. Pro-hormones have their purpose, but 90% of the time they are shit and they are abused by their users--mostly because they are ignorant about how PH's work.

Without a test base, Hdrol would have been your best choice (but used in conjunction with at least transaderm (topical test base).

Stay away from anything stronger than Hdrol. Pro-hormones by themselves are a bad decision.

Look into SARMs if you insist on running something, and you don't want to use AAS.

Ostarine is great. People like S-4 also but I hate it.

 

[Jeremy107]

You should never use a pro-hormone without a testosterone base. Pro-hormones have their purpose, but 90% of the time they are shit and they are abused by their users--mostly because they are ignorant about how PH's work.

Without a test base, Hdrol would have been your best choice (but used in conjunction with at least transaderm (topical test base).

Stay away from anything stronger than Hdrol. Pro-hormones by themselves are a bad decision.

Look into SARMs if you insist on running something, and you don't want to use AAS.

Ostarine is great. People like S-4 also but I hate it.

Thanks for the reply, yea I was pumped about trying HDrol cause I saw a lot of good gains from it on other people. But if it gonna make me piss hot for the army then that will be a no go for me. Just looking for a PH that would give similar gains as HDrol without pissing hot!!

 

[gymrat827]

Guys ran ph"s for 5-8 yrs before and tes base product came out. So I think you ll be okay.

I've done it. It's sure better to have one but I wouldn't not run the h drol cuz u don't have any tes.

 

[Jeremy107]

Guys ran ph"s for 5-8 yrs before and tes base product came out. So I think you ll be okay.

I've done it. It's sure better to have one but I wouldn't not run the h drol cuz u don't have any tes.

What's a product I can run that will give me the same gains?

 

[packers6211]

I know right now this one is hot on the reviews. IronMagLabs M-STEN Rx

 

[Jeremy107]

I know right now this one is hot on the reviews. IronMagLabs M-STEN Rx

Anyone used this product? It could I get a little unsure on it first before jumping into it. Was looking at getting the 8 week cycle.

Products as follows
First 4 weeks
M-Sten RX 2 caps daily
Anabolic matrix RX 2 caps daily
Ultra male RX 1 cap daily
Advanced cycle support RX 2 times daily

Last 4 weeks
Anabolic matrix RX 2 caps daily
Ultra male RX 1cap daily
Advanced cycle support RX 2 caps daily
E control RX 3 caps daily for the last three weeks..

 

[gymrat827]

What's a product I can run that will give me the same gains?

Get a bottle of helladrol. Run 100ng daily for 6wks. Reserr h here for a proper post cycle therapy (pct) and on cycle supports. Liver, blood pressure, etc etc.

I've know marines on tons of stuff too man.

 

[Jeremy107]

Get a bottle of helladrol. Run 100ng daily for 6wks. Reserr h here for a proper pct and on cycle supports. Liver, blood pressure, etc etc.

I've know marines on tons of stuff too man.

From my research 100mg would be too much. Ive seen several cycle reports of 50s and 75s but not 100mg.. Also was already told it would make me piss hot on the steroid forum

 

[MrRonBurgandy]

PH are everyone's Second Choice

You should never use a pro-hormone without a testosterone base. Pro-hormones have their purpose, but 90% of the time they are shit and they are abused by their users--mostly because they are ignorant about how PH's work.

Without a test base, Hdrol would have been your best choice (but used in conjunction with at least transaderm (topical test base).

Stay away from anything stronger than Hdrol. Pro-hormones by themselves are a bad decision.

Look into SARMs if you insist on running something, and you don't want to use AAS.

Ostarine is great. People like S-4 also but I hate it.

PH are always the alternative. 98% of the time someone who takes a PH was thinking about getting some AAS but found an easy legal choice. The real deal is superior but it's not an option for most. I've done Hdrol and had great steenght increase but not much size. I'm currently giving Epi a shot. We are always looking for an edge.

 

[TheDarkHalf]

From my research 100mg would be too much. Ive seen several cycle reports of 50s and 75s but not 100mg.. Also was already told it would make me piss hot on the steroid forum

honestly 100mg for 6 weeks is where it's at with the hdrol - that stuff is on point and I wouldn't ever dose it anything lower than that

Whether or not you piss hot on your drug screen depends on the type of test they are giving.....so yes there is a risk involved but if you can find out what they test for you might be in the clear

 

[Jeremy107]

PH are always the alternative. 98% of the time someone who takes a PH was thinking about getting some AAS but found an easy legal choice. The real deal is superior but it's not an option for most. I've done Hdrol and had great steenght increase but not much size. I'm currently giving Epi a shot. We are always looking for an edge.

Does anyone have a example of a cycle they have ran and had success with? Really wanted the HDrol cycle but if its makes me piss hot that's a no go..

Any suggestions on the cycle I posted earlier?

 

[packers6211]

IronMagLabs M-STEN Rx pes erase and cycle support supp two months ago. For me the best ph I've ran thus far. I did beastrol years ago and adrolean but nothing compared to msten.

 

[Jeremy107]

IronMagLabs M-STEN Rx pes erase and cycle support supp two months ago. For me the best ph I've ran thus far. I did beastrol years ago and adrolean but nothing compared to msten.

This cycle I posted earlier would that be a good cycle to run? Good to hear someone has ran this and had success with it!! Where do you actually get those supps from?

 

[ryand]

PH are always the alternative. 98% of the time someone who takes a PH was thinking about getting some AAS but found an easy legal choice. The real deal is superior but it's not an option for most. I've done Hdrol and had great steenght increase but not much size. I'm currently giving Epi a shot. We are always looking for an edge.

People don't realize the effects on the endocrine system when only using Ph's. Steroids are not healthy, designer steroids are really not healthy (pro-hormones). Not having testosterone in the body is very unhealthy (side effect of a non-test base AAS compound, and side effect of all pro-hormones).

Taking a pro-hormone (hard on the body) without a testosterone base (no testosterone in the body) = very hard on the body and just ignorant. If you're aware of this but still choose to take pro-hormones without a test base you are stupid.

Pro-hormones have their purpose but they are abused and cycled incorrectly a lot.

 

[Jeremy107]

People don't realize the effects on the endocrine system when only using Ph's. Steroids are not healthy, designer steroids are really not healthy (pro-hormones). Not having testosterone in the body is very unhealthy (side effect of a non-test base AAS compound, and side effect of all pro-hormones).

Taking a pro-hormone (hard on the body) without a testosterone base (no testosterone in the body) = very hard on the body and just ignorant. If you're aware of this but still choose to take pro-hormones without a test base you are stupid.

Pro-hormones have their purpose but they are abused and cycled incorrectly a lot.

This is why I asked for suggestion on a test booster and full coverage of a cycle support

 

[ryand]

This is why I asked for suggestion on a test booster and full coverage of a cycle support

Test boosters are pretty bunk. DAA is effective. And apparently hcgenerate is good but I haven't tried it. Everything I've read on it is anecdotal and biased for the most part. I haven't read a real study on it.

I'm assuming transaderm would make you piss hot? That would be your most effective test base without needles.

You should look into sarms and see if they are on the substance test list. I highly doubt they are. You could get some killer gains with ostarine and S4

 

[Jeremy107]

Test boosters are pretty bunk. DAA is effective. And apparently hcgenerate is good but I haven't tried it. Everything I've read on it is anecdotal and biased for the most part. I haven't read a real study on it.

I'm assuming transaderm would make you piss hot? That would be your most effective test base without needles.

You should look into sarms and see if they are on the substance test list. I highly doubt they are. You could get some killer gains with ostarine and S4

I googled it and looked to it a little but, just looking for something to take for good gains. Been at a plateau for 4 months now, changed up my training and adjusted my diet to. When I did take that PH I made good gains and heard wonders bout HDrol. Only factor as said before dont wanna piss hot for military and my police officer job. You personally tried S4? Would like to study someone's cycle they did themselves. Thanks for all the help and guideance here

 

[Jeremy107]

I googled it and looked to it a little but, just looking for something to take for good gains. Been at a plateau for 4 months now, changed up my training and adjusted my diet to. When I did take that PH I made good gains and heard wonders bout HDrol. Only factor as said before dont wanna piss hot for military and my police officer job. You personally tried S4? Would like to study someone's cycle they did themselves. Thanks for all the help and guideance here

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