jbird101
New member
are you tring to do it in your fat? just do it intermuscular and if you did it in fat im sure it will work its way in your blood any way
Pinning test in fat? New user - 1st cycle of test
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bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Experienced users use tren because its the best. But since your new atleast wait till the third cycle to experience with other compounds. A test only cycle for a first time user will accomplish great success so no need for other compounds. (If diet and training is up to par). Go do a search and read about it. What are your stats anyway? Age weight height. We need this info to better assist you!
36 years
5.10 (155cm)
85kg (187pounds)
Not sure of bf% exactly but estimating around 15-20% (a big reason to be leaner) - 32 inch waist. Muscular build on top.
Cardio sessions - 3x 1 hour intense sessions + 2x 20 mins sessions
Weight sessions - 3x hour sessions per week (2 body parts at each time)
Diet - very clean, protein (egg whites, fish, chicken), low carbs, and protein shakes.
I am taking pics every week to see differences.
Hope that helps and again really loving the advice here.
5.10 (155cm)
85kg (187pounds)
Not sure of bf% exactly but estimating around 15-20% (a big reason to be leaner) - 32 inch waist. Muscular build on top.
Cardio sessions - 3x 1 hour intense sessions + 2x 20 mins sessions
Weight sessions - 3x hour sessions per week (2 body parts at each time)
Diet - very clean, protein (egg whites, fish, chicken), low carbs, and protein shakes.
I am taking pics every week to see differences.
Hope that helps and again really loving the advice here.
Cos tren is for the big boys like herm hence BIGherm ! And why r u eating low carb?? What is your goal with this cycle?? Seems like you wanna get leaner. You need to make sure you eating decent amount of carbs otherwise protein won't be utilized for building muscle. Go check out 3j . Instead of buying more compound , hire him!
My basic goal is to get more muscle definition, mainly around the mid section (abs)
I have good bulk above - pecs and arms so more defined would be great with bulk there, def to lower bf % for sure.
A reason why Tren was recommended was for this - lean with some gain in muscle as well as aiding the fat loss. Similar to being on Clen - to assist in lowering bf% while keeping the gains. This was the whole reason of combining Tren, Clen with the Test for leveling it out. This is the first I am hearing to do Test on its own for my first cycle (test was to balance out the tren hormone levels)
This is my first cycle though and want to ensure i do it right. Hence me asking if I injected in the fat instead of muscle by accident will I still be getting the test in my body as was going to start tren soon - but wanted to ensure I had the test before adding the tren for my levels to be balanced.
The Clen was the added extra to help in shredding with out losing my gains.
Hope that helps
I have good bulk above - pecs and arms so more defined would be great with bulk there, def to lower bf % for sure.
A reason why Tren was recommended was for this - lean with some gain in muscle as well as aiding the fat loss. Similar to being on Clen - to assist in lowering bf% while keeping the gains. This was the whole reason of combining Tren, Clen with the Test for leveling it out. This is the first I am hearing to do Test on its own for my first cycle (test was to balance out the tren hormone levels)
This is my first cycle though and want to ensure i do it right. Hence me asking if I injected in the fat instead of muscle by accident will I still be getting the test in my body as was going to start tren soon - but wanted to ensure I had the test before adding the tren for my levels to be balanced.
The Clen was the added extra to help in shredding with out losing my gains.
Hope that helps
darkside06
Do Not Contact
People are gonna tell you all kinds of shit but take the advice of the people on here who know their shit!
You don't have the experience to Run Tren.....especially if this is your first cycle because you don't know how your body will handle AAS.
Just stick to Test only for your first time.
You don't have the experience to Run Tren.....especially if this is your first cycle because you don't know how your body will handle AAS.
Just stick to Test only for your first time.
bigherm2121
just a Lil guy!!!
Aas is not meant to be used as a fat burner. Some compounds aid in fat loss but if you wanna shed fat its your diet. Don't take stuff because you think you'll shed all kinds of fat and be jacked. Doesn't work that way. If you wanna shed fat its in your diet. And don't tell us you have a great diet because we can tell you don't because of your height and weight. It may be a good diet. But its probably not good enough to reach such goals you desire for. Just get tren out of your mind because you are not ready for that stuff.
Tren is good for those and there are some threads on why test only so I'll lay out a couple reasons.
Test 500-600mg a week 12 weeks.
With any AAS you can bulk, cut, or recomp. Run test alone to see how you respond and to see if any sides appear. If sides do appear, you will know it's the test causing them, and they are estrogen related.
The sides are combated by using an ai(aromatase inhibitor), specifically aromisin (exemestane) or adex (anastrazole) if you can't get aromisin. Some sides could be acne, gyno, testicles atrophy, bloating.
If you are trying to cut bodyfat, you do it through diet not drugs. Yes tren can help reduce BF, but it can have very difficult sides. Test is very good for cutting BF, you just structure your diet around that and it will preserve or add muscle while reducing BF.
If you add tren, and begin to have sides, you won't know if it's test or tren causing them, and won't know how to combat them. Tren can increase prolactin/progestins and cause gyno, acne, anxiety, insomnia, loss of appetite, shortness of breath, elevated BP, bad on lipids, extreme sweating at night. These sides are completely different to combat and you will have no way of knowing which compound is causing this. Also high estro from test can have an effect on prolactin being increased.
Running test alone, you gain all the benefits, will know how you respond, find out if you are gyno prone, and see what type of sides you get and how to deal with them. When you start adding too many compounds to fast, you end up with no where to go fast.
So I would suggest getting aromisin and running 6.25mg a day or eod and increase if needed. Look into hcg, 250iu x 2 a week during the entire cycle and blast 500iu a day starting day after last test inject for 10 days, take 4 off, then start serms.
Clen is garbage IMO. It may increase core temp but it's not going to shed the BF. Diet and cardio is the only things that will. Keep sodium to a minimum and water intake high.
Test 500-600mg a week 12 weeks.
With any AAS you can bulk, cut, or recomp. Run test alone to see how you respond and to see if any sides appear. If sides do appear, you will know it's the test causing them, and they are estrogen related.
The sides are combated by using an ai(aromatase inhibitor), specifically aromisin (exemestane) or adex (anastrazole) if you can't get aromisin. Some sides could be acne, gyno, testicles atrophy, bloating.
If you are trying to cut bodyfat, you do it through diet not drugs. Yes tren can help reduce BF, but it can have very difficult sides. Test is very good for cutting BF, you just structure your diet around that and it will preserve or add muscle while reducing BF.
If you add tren, and begin to have sides, you won't know if it's test or tren causing them, and won't know how to combat them. Tren can increase prolactin/progestins and cause gyno, acne, anxiety, insomnia, loss of appetite, shortness of breath, elevated BP, bad on lipids, extreme sweating at night. These sides are completely different to combat and you will have no way of knowing which compound is causing this. Also high estro from test can have an effect on prolactin being increased.
Running test alone, you gain all the benefits, will know how you respond, find out if you are gyno prone, and see what type of sides you get and how to deal with them. When you start adding too many compounds to fast, you end up with no where to go fast.
So I would suggest getting aromisin and running 6.25mg a day or eod and increase if needed. Look into hcg, 250iu x 2 a week during the entire cycle and blast 500iu a day starting day after last test inject for 10 days, take 4 off, then start serms.
Clen is garbage IMO. It may increase core temp but it's not going to shed the BF. Diet and cardio is the only things that will. Keep sodium to a minimum and water intake high.
Don't get me wrong I am still looking to gain but I do want more muscle definition - hence the lowering %bf. I dont want to lose the muscle I have as I do have decent mass.
I actually do look after my diet and have only for the last month lowering carb levels to ensure good results (after advice) to lower bf%. My only thing with diet would be alcohol - which i think is my down fall (however i am trying to cut this out if I can cope)
Previous to this 1st cycle - I have either focused on Gaining or shredding without using and have been fine but not perfect (A reason why I am looking at max results and using this time round)
Tren was suggested as this was my goal and not to use tren alone - hence the Test E.
I am only discovering that I should use Test E alone first now (even after extensive research on Tren). Clen i have been after for a while for while I am shredding and now able to get my hands on it - i was told I could use all together.
I appreciate all the advice and def not taking this lightly (being my first cycle and all) I am getting new information from this I was not aware of. Us first time users are not experts hence we seek to get the info to point us in the right direction. If we were experts we would just do and not ask. We are cautious and value the information provided by people that have more experience than us.
I actually do look after my diet and have only for the last month lowering carb levels to ensure good results (after advice) to lower bf%. My only thing with diet would be alcohol - which i think is my down fall (however i am trying to cut this out if I can cope)
Previous to this 1st cycle - I have either focused on Gaining or shredding without using and have been fine but not perfect (A reason why I am looking at max results and using this time round)
Tren was suggested as this was my goal and not to use tren alone - hence the Test E.
I am only discovering that I should use Test E alone first now (even after extensive research on Tren). Clen i have been after for a while for while I am shredding and now able to get my hands on it - i was told I could use all together.
I appreciate all the advice and def not taking this lightly (being my first cycle and all) I am getting new information from this I was not aware of. Us first time users are not experts hence we seek to get the info to point us in the right direction. If we were experts we would just do and not ask. We are cautious and value the information provided by people that have more experience than us.
Thank you for this. Very helpful advise and much needed in terms of breaking it down for 1st time user.
sircurlsalot
New member
Do the twice a week thing. People will recommend it and it's the way it says in the stickies for best results. Forget the tren on this cycle.
Hey guys you seem like alot of help what do you think about this cycle
Week 1-12 500mg test e 250 split into 2 injections Monday morning and Wednesday
Week 1-2 clen 100mcg
Week 1-12 600mg equipoise
Week 5-6 120mcg clen
Week 11-12 100 mcg clen
Week 13-14 nothing
Week 15-16 clomid 100mg nolvadex 40mg
Week 17-18 clomid 50mg nolvadex 40mg
Week 1-12 500mg test e 250 split into 2 injections Monday morning and Wednesday
Week 1-2 clen 100mcg
Week 1-12 600mg equipoise
Week 5-6 120mcg clen
Week 11-12 100 mcg clen
Week 13-14 nothing
Week 15-16 clomid 100mg nolvadex 40mg
Week 17-18 clomid 50mg nolvadex 40mg
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