Planning the next six to eight months

snowpatrol123

snowpatrol123

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So...I couldn't sleep, watched several movies and started pondering how to achieve my next goal - 15-20lbs LBM and stage ready (sub 6%) again within eight months

Cost is a factor (in that I can't afford 20iu pharm GH/day, for example) but a reasonable amount of food and drugs will fit the budget

Health is also a factor, obviously zero orals would be healthier but I plan to cycle them on/off along with insulin as well

Would like some input other than "you're an idiot that's a lot of drugs"

Show @ wk 30

1-30 HGH 5iu AM / 3iu PM

1-8 testC 250mg EOD (875/wk)
1-8 primoE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
1-8 npp 150mg EOD (525/wk)
1-4 sdrol 30mg ED
5-8 slin 10iu pre/10iu postWO
1-4 TNE 50mg preWO
5-8 TNE 100mg preWO

9-18 testC 375mg EOD (1400/wk)
9-18 primoE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
9-18 npp 200mg EOD (700/wk)
9-13 drol 100mg ED
14-18 slin 10iu pre/10iu postWO
14-18 TNE 50mg preWO

19-24 testC 500mg EOD (1750/wk)
19-24 mastE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
19-24 trenE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
19-22 trenA 100mg EOD (350/wk)
19-24 drol 150mg ED
19-22 slin 50iu AM (70fast/30slow)
19-22 dnp 250mg ED

24-27 testC 250mg EOD (875/wk)
24-27 mastE 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
24-27 trenE 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
24-27 winstrol 100mg ED
24-27 slin 25iu AM (70fast/30slow)
24-27 dnp 250mg ED

28-29 testP 100mg ED (700/wk)
28-30 mastP 100mg ED (700/wk)
28-30 trenA 200mg ED (1400/wk)
28-30 winstrol 150mg ED
28-30 proviron 50mg ED
28-30 halo 30mg ED
28-30 adex 1mg ED
28-30 nolva 20mg ED

30 aldactone
30 dyazide
 
Two questions:

1. Why the ramping of the test? To be able to adjust for estrogenic sides/bp issues?

2. Have you ever run tren and DNP together? If not, I strongly discourage it. If you have any cardio issues from tren, DNP makes them 10x worse in my experience. I'd just stick with the tren personally as you already have the HGH and DHT derivatives doing their job.

Okay, I lied; I am also curious about the halo. I've never seen it employed in a cutting cycle, only as part of a PL strategy for strength. There some benefit from adding it?
 
1. Food/calories will be going up in conjunction with the test. In the past I've set the test @ 1g for four months, for example, and stalled weight-wise after eight to ten weeks; hoping this is enough to prevent that from happening. Also running the milder oral (drol) later on, so again hoping more test will counteract the lack of superdrol kicking ass

2. I don't notice cardio issues on tren, and have done 600mg/d DNP alongside 1.4g tren/wk recently with nothing negative to report other than girlfriend complaining about the bedroom being cold at night (A/C on). I won't be rushing prep this time so I don't see a need to run DNP higher than 250mg/d where I barely notice the sides at all.

Halo's used as a hardener near the end of prep, and to counteract the strength loss from carb/glycogen depletion in the last few weeks of contest prep. Combined with the winstrol you don't end up with the same strength loss you'd expect (according to some who've run it...I haven't yet)

Last time I forewent it due to high cost and ran anadrol instead, which was fine, but I want to see how much better (if any) halo works for me since I have a much cheaper source for it.
 
You will love halo. The strength and aggression go thru the roof when on it. Good look with this. Curious to watch it all play out!!!
 
thats a monster cycle bro.. i know we are running your diet for a short time together.. but youre going to really need to be dialed in diet wise to get the best out of this.. major changes..
 
3J said:
thats a monster cycle bro.. i know we are running your diet for a short time together.. but youre going to really need to be dialed in diet wise to get the best out of this.. major changes..
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I wouldn't be considering that much gear without a pro giving me input on diet 3J :)

Before I start pinning again the commitment is >100%, I trust you and you'll have to trust me on that.

Tonight, we ride!

Ok not tonight but you know what I'm saying.
 
snowpatrol123 said:
I wouldn't be considering that much gear without a pro giving me input on diet 3J :)

Before I start pinning again the commitment is >100%, I trust you and you'll have to trust me on that.

Tonight, we ride!

Ok not tonight but you know what I'm saying.
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u just did a show.. take a week off.. enjoy some of your favorite foods... hit me up.. lets figure this out
 
If you recently just competed SP - I'd sure like to see a pic of your on-stage conditioning...

Feel free to PM it if you don't want to make it public buddy.
 
3J said:
u just did a show.. take a week off.. enjoy some of your favorite foods... hit me up.. lets figure this out
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Trust me I'm doing that...

So far:
-Saturday evening: post-contest steak dinner
-Sunday morning: post-contest brunch
-Sunday evening: my parents' turkey dinner
-Monday morning: turkey and pie leftovers

Still to come:
Monday afternoon: sister's boyfriend's parents' turkey dinner
Monday evening: girlfriend's parents' turkey dinner

Expected outcome: +10-15lbs, all lean muscle of course

Everything except the last of the mast E is cleared out of my system, having the ever-present PCT vs cruise debate right now.

I have my pharm nolva, UGL hcg & clomid all set but it's my girlfriend of all people who questioned why I would want to go on a hormone rollercoaster vs cruising for a little while and getting bloods done before blasting off

I was literally less than 24hrs away from PCT and am now taking it day by day with 20mg of test P while I weight my options and look at the calendar/timelines
 
yes, he was getting his feet wet.. came to me 3 weeks out... did a physique show... looked good..

its time to take it to another level
 
snowpatrol123 said:
I was literally less than 24hrs away from PCT and am now taking it day by day with 20mg of test P while I weight my options and look at the calendar/timelines
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It would all come down to age for me buddy... I looked at that link of your show prep and pics, you don't look very old to me...
I'd avoid being married to the TRT needle as long as you can hold out buddy - tough call I know, but that's just my opinion...
 
snowpatrol123 said:
1. Food/calories will be going up in conjunction with the test. In the past I've set the test @ 1g for four months, for example, and stalled weight-wise after eight to ten weeks; hoping this is enough to prevent that from happening. Also running the milder oral (drol) later on, so again hoping more test will counteract the lack of superdrol kicking ass

2. I don't notice cardio issues on tren, and have done 600mg/d DNP alongside 1.4g tren/wk recently with nothing negative to report other than girlfriend complaining about the bedroom being cold at night (A/C on). I won't be rushing prep this time so I don't see a need to run DNP higher than 250mg/d where I barely notice the sides at all.

Halo's used as a hardener near the end of prep, and to counteract the strength loss from carb/glycogen depletion in the last few weeks of contest prep. Combined with the winstrol you don't end up with the same strength loss you'd expect (according to some who've run it...I haven't yet)

Last time I forewent it due to high cost and ran anadrol instead, which was fine, but I want to see how much better (if any) halo works for me since I have a much cheaper source for it.
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Sounds like you have your ducks in a row and know your body. Definitely wish you the best of luck!
 
I reconsidered the Primo...as much as I want to try/include it, it's hard to justify next to something proven (and so much cheaper) like deca

I've run EQ at 1g/wk for almost four months before, was underwhelmed but am not sure what else (if anything) I'd include...still open to suggestions.

...revised cycle (again, still WIP) looks more like this:

1-22 GH 10iu postWO
23-29 GH 5iu AM/5iu PM

1-8 testE 250mg EOD (875/wk)
1-8 deca 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
1-5 sdrol 30mg ED
1-8 TNE 75mg preWO
5-8 lantus 20iu AM
5-8 humalog 10iu preWO
1-8 IGF1 50mcg postWO

9-18 testE 375mg EOD (1400/wk)
9-18 deca 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
9-13 drol 100mg ED
14-18 lantus 30iu AM
14-20 humalog 15iu preWO
9-18 IGF1 100mcg postWO

19-24 testE 500mg EOD (1750/wk)
19-24 mastE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
19-24 trenE 200mg EOD (700/wk)
19-24 trenA 200mg EOD (700/wk)
19-22 drol 150mg ED
19-22 lantus 40iu AM
19-22 dnp 250mg ED
19-24 IGF1 100mcg postWO

24-27 testE 250mg EOD (875/wk)
24-27 mastE 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
24-27 trenE 300mg EOD (1050/wk)
25-27 winstrol 100mg ED
24-27 lantus 40iu AM
24-27 dnp 250mg ED

28-29 testP 100mg ED (700/wk)
28-30 mastP 100mg ED (700/wk)
28-30 trenA 200mg ED (1400/wk)
28-30 winstrol 150mg ED
28-30 proviron 50mg ED
28-30 halo 30mg ED
28-30 adex 1mg ED
28-30 nolva 20mg ED

30 aldactone
30 dyazide
 
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