Please adsice of my 2nd cycle

[biggie908]

my first cycle was::

WK1-8 500MG
WK9-10 625MG
WK11-13 750MG

WEEK-14-15- ESTANE AT 10 EOD
WK16- 20nolva/ 100mg clomid@3day-50mg@4days /20mg estane
week 17 ...20 nolva /50mg clomid /20mg estane
week 18... 10 nolva/50mg clomid /20mg estane
week 19.. 10 nolva/ 50mg clomid /20mg estane


My first option is :
test-e and Anadrol( at the tail and front end)

My second is
test-e and EQ

i havent firgured any doses yET

I am thinking of using syn or LR3 for my calfs

 

[Teutonic]

Do not taper doses it s old school..
Anadriol 1st time out was foolish..

Try 600 test and 600 eq..that s all.
leave that other shit alone ..how old are you 22-24..

 

[biggie908]

I rasied my test dose bc of gains slowed up

 

[biggie908]

why is a50 dumb?

 

[scotimusprime]

ya raising your test dose like that just increases chance of sides. if your gains stop it could be your diet or the fact that after 8 weeks of being at elevated blood levels youre body stops responding.

he said anadrol on first cycle was dumb. but i think you mean second cycle.....still keep it for a future cycle. just do test/eq or something like test/deca. try some dbol to kickstart if you really want to add an oral

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

I am a fan of the EQ. You can front load it with dbol.

 

[biggie908]

i am a fan of the eq. You can front load it with dbol.

why r u a fan?

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

Got shit poor joints and it helps while on cycle. The gains are all lean and it does not shut me down as hard. Also like the ability to use it for longer cycles and the lack of arom. Plus the vascularity is stupid good and my cardio does not suffer. If anything my cardio is easier.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

test dbol is all you will need on this cycle

750 test

40-50 mg dbol at the front and back

i love dbol, i hate anadrol

 

[biggie908]

test dbol is all you will need on this cycle

750 test

40-50 mg dbol at the front and back

i love dbol, i hate anadrol

i agree with you. my only concern is finding REAL DBOL

 

[biggie908]

got shit poor joints and it helps while on cycle. The gains are all lean and it does not shut me down as hard. Also like the ability to use it for longer cycles and the lack of arom. Plus the vascularity is stupid good and my cardio does not suffer. If anything my cardio is easier.

thanks, thats sound right on the money.. My dose for test will be 600-750 14-16 weeks.. I think anything over 600 i mite need to run nolva along.. Im still finding out this eq dose 400-600

 

[Dominator Human]

thanks, thats sound right on the money.. My dose for test will be 600-750 14-16 weeks.. I think anything over 600 i mite need to run nolva along.. Im still finding out this eq dose 400-600

This year was the first time I ever ran EQ at 600mg/wk and the results were good. I would suggest you start out at 600mg/week and if you start to get bad sides then lower your dose.

 

[biggie908]

question.. are more thought im going to DECA... when you do know you should rasie the dose of test or add a new compound such as deca

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

question.. are more thought im going to DECA... when you do know you should rasie the dose of test or add a new compound such as deca

Don't up your doses until you have exhausted all the possibilities of diet and training. Usually if I stick I find a calorie bump can get me moving. If that does not work I alternate my workout. I.E. Hypertrophic to Strength to Isometric.

 

[biggie908]

Don't up your doses until you have exhausted all the possibilities of diet and training. Usually if I stick I find a calorie bump can get me moving. If that does not work I alternate my workout. I.E. Hypertrophic to Strength to Isometric.

point well taken. due to money reason. it will be test and a oral dbol or a50

 

[biggie908]

test dbol is all you will need on this cycle

750 test

40-50 mg dbol at the front and back

i love dbol, i hate anadrol

why u hate it?

 

[biggie908]

i have a few choices


OTPION 1
1-16wk-600mg test
1-4/6wk 20/30/40/50 dbol
13-18wk 20/30/40/50 dbol

Dbol dose is dependable on how i feel(sides) at 20mg

Option 2
1-16wk-600mg test...maybe a 1000mg jump on week "0"
1-14wk deca 300mg


Option 3 maybe .. maybe not
1-16wk-600mg test
1-4/6wk 50/50/100/100 A50
13-18wk 50/50/100/100 A50
dose is dependable on how i feel(sides) at 50mg

Option 4
1-16wk-600mg test... maybe a 1000mg jump on week "0"
1-16wk-600mg Eq

*I am leaning towards orals bc of the price.. I know i will need a prostate support also plus pct

* I really cant make my mind up over a50 vs dbol. I keep hearing, that once you stop dbol, all gains stop too. Ive heard sides from are bad from a50 whicle makes me lean to dbol

*will be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) eod

*option 1,2,4 are my top choices

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

why u hate it?

It made me really lethargic, no matter what i did i couldnt get going, i was never excited for the gym either and i didnt even get warmed up til i was there for 20 minutes.

it made me retain alot of water, headaches were very common for me, its also the only AAS thats has made me not want to eat. i didnt want to eat all on the shit. dbol is far superior IMO

keep in mind some people love drol

 

[ezio]

Test + t-bol is far better if you want to keep much of your gains. D-bol/anadrol makes you big and strong while your on it, but you'll loose the most of it when you come of.

Week:
1-12: 300 mg testo E3D
1-6 : 60 mg t-bol ED
14-17: 20 mg Nolva ED

 

[biggie908]

I am leaning towardss option 2