Please Help with Lab Results......

[Titleesq]

Good Evening Everyone:

I received the bulk of my lab results today, but I'm not sure if I have enough information for anyone to try to make an informed opinion as to my problem(s). I'm a 38 year old male, 5 foot 6, and weighing 190lbs. There was plenty of overkill as far as tests performed (at least I think so), so I will just try to list what I think may be relevant: Keep in mind that as of June 20, 2011 my Total T was 252ng. The test that was just performed included my Total T as well as Free T, but those results have not arrived yet. Another important piece of the puzzle that did not come back today either, is SHBG.

I have had two injections of Test Cyp at 200mgs. The first one was Thursday June 23, and the last injection that I had was last Monday June 27.

TSH, 0.79 mIU/L (.40-4.50) Ferritin, 35 ng/mL (20-345) WBC, 6.7 Thousand/uL (3.8-10.8) RBC, 4.32 Million/uL (4.20-5.80) Hemoglobin, 13.7 g/dL (13.2-17.1) Hematocrit, 40 % (38.5-50.0) Reticulocyte Count, Absolute, 108000 cells/mcl (25000-90000) Cholesterol, 215 MG/DL (125-200) Triglyceride, 331 MG/DL (<150) HDL Cholesterol, 35 MG/DL (> or = 40) LDL Cholesterol, Calculated 114 MG/DL (<130) Cortisol, Total, Serum, 11.8 mcg/dL (AM) 4.0-22.0 mcg/dL (PM) 3.0-17.0 mcg/dL Progesterone <0.5 ng/mL (<1.4) Prolactin, Serum 11.4 ng/mL (2,0-18.0) LH, Serum, <0.2 mIU/mL (1.5-9.3) FSH, Serum, <0.7 mIU/mL (1.6-8.0) T4, Total, 5.9 ug/dL (4.5-12.0) T3, Total 136 ng/dL (76.181) T3, Free, 3.7 pg/mL (2.3-4.2) T3, Uptake, 30.7 % (27.8-40.7) T4 Free, Calculated, 1.8 UG/DL (1.6-3.7) T4 Free, Non-Dialysis, 0.8 ng/dL (0.8-1.8) Estradiol, 72 pg/mL (13-54) PSA, Total 0.4 ng/mL (0.0-4.0) IGE, Serum 14 kU/L (0-114)

Without the results of Testosterone, both Total and Free, as well as SHBG, IGF-1, and IGF-BP3, is it possible to guess what the hell is going on with me and what my next course of action should most likely be? Thanks to all of you in advance,

 

[JOWS6]

TSH, 0.79 mIU/L (.40-4.50)
Ferritin, 35 ng/mL (20-345)
WBC, 6.7 Thousand/uL (3.8-10.8)
RBC, 4.32 Million/uL (4.20-5.80)
Hemoglobin, 13.7 g/dL (13.2-17.1)
Hematocrit, 40 % (38.5-50.0)
Reticulocyte Count, Absolute, 108000 cells/mcl (25000-90000)
Cholesterol, 215 MG/DL (125-200)
Triglyceride, 331 MG/DL (<150)
HDL Cholesterol, 35 MG/DL (> or = 40)
LDL Cholesterol, Calculated 114 MG/DL (<130)
Cortisol, Total, Serum, 11.8 mcg/dL (AM) 4.0-22.0 mcg/dL (PM) 3.0-17.0 mcg/dL
Progesterone <0.5 ng/mL (<1.4)
Prolactin, Serum 11.4 ng/mL (2,0-18.0)

LH, Serum, <0.2 mIU/mL (1.5-9.3)
FSH, Serum, <0.7 mIU/mL (1.6-8.0)

T4, Total, 5.9 ug/dL (4.5-12.0)
T3, Total 136 ng/dL (76.181)
T3, Free, 3.7 pg/mL (2.3-4.2)
T3, Uptake, 30.7 % (27.8-40.7)
T4 Free, Calculated, 1.8 UG/DL (1.6-3.7)
T4 Free, Non-Dialysis, 0.8 ng/dL (0.8-1.8)
Estradiol, 72 pg/mL (13-54)
PSA, Total 0.4 ng/mL (0.0-4.0)
IGE, Serum 14 kU/L (0-114)

I had to do this so it was easier for everyone else to read.

 

[JOWS6]

The thing that pops out is your Estradiol numbers. Aside from that your thyroid values look good.

 

[cjw2021]

You need an anti-estrogen. Your estrogen should be in the 30s or below, not 70 something. You also need SHBG and or free test done to see if that needs to be lowered. Try 125mg e 5 days of test cyp instead of these shots every 2 weeks. That is a recipe for disaster. If your doc cannot get with the program, you need maximustrt.com .

 

[Titleesq]

I had to do this so it was easier for everyone else to read.

Thanks for doing that. When I put the numbers up there, they certainly didn't look like that. I think my computer had a brain fart.

 

[Titleesq]

You need an anti-estrogen. Your estrogen should be in the 30s or below, not 70 something. You also need SHBG and or free test done to see if that needs to be lowered. Try 125mg e 5 days of test cyp instead of these shots every 2 weeks. That is a recipe for disaster. If your doc cannot get with the program, you need maximustrt.com .

Thanks for that info. What Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you suggest and at what dose? I am waiting on the results of SHBG as well as Total and Free Testosterone. I should have them next week. According to my schedule, I am due for another inject on Monday. What should I do? Also, are you troubled by the low LH and FSH values? Do I need something for that as well?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions, I just feel like I will never get better, and so my attitude SUCKS, and I'm getting very impatient for results.

THANKS!!!!

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

thanks for that info. What Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you suggest and at what dose? I am waiting on the results of shbg as well as total and free testosterone. I should have them next week. According to my schedule, i am due for another inject on monday. What should i do? Also, are you troubled by the low lh and fsh values? Do i need something for that as well?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions, i just feel like i will never get better, and so my attitude sucks, and i'm getting very impatient for results.

Thanks!!!!

i'd take a stab at a fat chick in the dark and bet that you are shut down, bro. Your body isn't producing natty test. You need some hcg and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) used synergistically to to pull you out of shut down mode and suppress aromatase long enough for your body to flush the surplus of estrogen it is hanging on to. Get on board with "team maximus"!

 

[king.koopa]

i'd take a stab at a fat chick in the dark and bet that you are shut down, bro. Your body isn't producing natty test. You need some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) used synergistically to to pull you out of shut down mode and suppress aromatase long enough for your body to flush the surplus of estrogen it is hanging on to. Get on board with "team maximus"!

Not sure what you are saying here Chip. If he is taking T then his natural production (of T) will shut down.

What do you mean by this:

"You need some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) used synergistically to to pull you out of shut down mode and suppress aromatase long enough for your body to flush the surplus of estrogen it is hanging on to"

 

[TerpVTX]

I am by no means an expert, but your FSH is extremely low, which could suggest a pituitary issue. Have you suffered any head trauma?

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

Not sure what you are saying here Chip. If he is taking T then his natural production (of T) will shut down.

What do you mean by this:

"You need some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) used synergistically to to pull you out of shut down mode and suppress aromatase long enough for your body to flush the surplus of estrogen it is hanging on to"

PRECISELY WHY "CYCLING IS CYCLING" AND "THERAPY IS THERAPY". WITH PROPERLY ADMINISTERED THERAPY AND THE SYNERGISTIC USE OF Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) AND AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI), YOU DONT HAVE TO LET YOUR HPTA SHUT DOWN. YOU CAN STILL PRODUCE NATTY TEST WHILE ON TRT. HOW DO YOU THINK WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP SO MANY SACKS FULL OF LOAD BLOWING, BABY BATTER, WHILE ON TEST, IF WE DIDNT MAKE SURE THE REST OF THE BASES ARE COVERED?

"ALL HAIL MAXIMUS"

 

[mlc31]

PRECISELY WHY "CYCLING IS CYCLING" AND "THERAPY IS THERAPY". WITH PROPERLY ADMINISTERED THERAPY AND THE SYNERGISTIC USE OF Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) AND AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI), YOU DONT HAVE TO LET YOUR HPTA SHUT DOWN. YOU CAN STILL PRODUCE NATTY TEST WHILE ON TRT. HOW DO YOU THINK WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP SO MANY SACKS FULL OF LOAD BLOWING, BABY BATTER, WHILE ON TEST, IF WE DIDNT MAKE SURE THE REST OF THE BASES ARE COVERED?

"ALL HAIL MAXIMUS"

I think where some of the newer guys get confused is that they aren't used to a "proper TRT/HRT protocol". People hear testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and they think of test injections. That's it. They've never been told that there are 3 parts to a successful protocol- Test/AI/HCG. All 3 have to be used together to get optimal results. This is what separates Maximus from everyone else. To me, it's true HRT.

 

[Packgus]

amen brother! life is good in the Maximus camp!