pro-hormone vs testosterone

[strong_arm]

im going to start my cycle M-Drol and H-Drol for 4 weeks.
can i expect gain and size similar to sustanon for 10 weeks cycle ?

 

[gixxerk2]

short answer, no... do some research before posting such an open ended question with very little information and provide some stats ie. goals, age-weight, cycle history, training, diet etc.

 

[bodySculpter]

Hey gixxjerk, its people like you who probably have little or no knowledge of true Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) usage, yeah it was a dumb question but ive read a million dumb questions on this board, this guy is newbie probably just like you, get back to your bike dumbass jt

 

[strong_arm]

baby speak gently, im not begginer as u think. im bodybuilder since 10 years ago, im a real one
im 27 years old 260 lb body weight 13% bf , my max bench is 350 lb x1 my squat is 430 lbx1 and the previous question because im still natural bodybuilder , i never try any kind of steroid in all my life, so pls answer jently or do not.

 

[Froog]

a moderate testosterone cycle would be far greater than any prohormones in my opinion...sometimes you dont know what those prohomones are doing to your insides becasue they havent been around long. With test you know for the most part what to expect because it has been done some many times by so many people. If your gonna do it, do it right...get some test, nolvadex, and probably some HCG. Do your research on protocols for these 3 compounds and you will not be disappointed!

 

[gixxerk2]

Hey gixxjerk, its people like you who probably have little or no knowledge of true Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) usage, yeah it was a dumb question but ive read a million dumb questions on this board, this guy is newbie probably just like you, get back to your bike dumbass jt

hey dipshit, I didn't say it was a dumb question as you suggest, learn the english language fuckwit before accusing me of flaming this guy. I asked him to provide a little more informationn and be a little more specific when asking a question... and don't go telling me I'm a fucking newbie when you know nothing, it's people like you who should shut the fuck up and take up a different sport litke bowling maybe...

 

[rocko419]

Hey the both of you mother fuckers better shut the fuck up and play nice before you both get one in the back of the head. You got it? Lol come on now boys really now stop fighting you guysy are makeing me really really sad.

 

[donniebrasco]

yeah i agree with gixxerk.
should be a bit more specific, like why compare it to Sustanon (sust), why not test e?

 

[thereal_hellboy]

Hey gixxjerk, its people like you who probably have little or no knowledge of true Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) usage, yeah it was a dumb question but ive read a million dumb questions on this board, this guy is newbie probably just like you, get back to your bike dumbass jt

gixxer was offering an opinion on the question, the conversation lounge is open for this type of shyte BS...


One would suggest that a cycle of test would be the preferred option!

 

[bodySculpter]

Ok, enough fucking with you guys, seriously strong arm if your 260 and only benching 350 you might want to use something a little stronger than a prohormone because i many peoples eyes there just a waste of money..and i would run enanthate at a low dose with deca and thats all you need for your first cycle and if you really have 10yrs exp at your weight and bf percentage your gains will be through the roof...jt

 

[gixxerk2]

anyway....

I would run your first cycle like this:

Week 1-10: 500mg Test E, MON-THU shots
Week 2-12: HCG, 250-500 iu 2x shots weekly
Week 12-14: post cycle therapy (pct), nolva 40mg ed
Week 14-16: post cycle therapy (pct), nolva 20mg ed
*Keep an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand if bloat or gyno is a concern for you, on a cycle like this I like to run 20mg eod to help keep bloat away.

Using test only will let you see how your body reacts to a single compound being that you will run test as a base for future cycles, if you run test/deca for example as a first and come accross sides it will be difficult for you to detrmine which of the compounds is causing it and the best way to deal with it.

 

[bodySculpter]

Yep, thats a good cycle but you only need one inject of test e since its a long acting ester also i would run 300mgs of deca once a wk.....for best results jt

 

[strong_arm]

anyway....

I would run your first cycle like this:

Week 1-10: 500mg Test E, MON-THU shots
Week 2-12: HCG, 250-500 iu 2x shots weekly
Week 12-14: post cycle therapy (pct), nolva 40mg ed
Week 14-16: post cycle therapy (pct), nolva 20mg ed
*Keep an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand if bloat or gyno is a concern for you, on a cycle like this I like to run 20mg eod to help keep bloat away.

Using test only will let you see how your body reacts to a single compound being that you will run test as a base for future cycles, if you run test/deca for example as a first and come accross sides it will be difficult for you to detrmine which of the compounds is causing it and the best way to deal with it.

should i run the hcg during the course ?????? why ????? to avoid testicle shrinkage ??????
other small question: if use nolva 20 mg eod during the cycle, it will eliminate the muscle gain ?

 

[gixxerk2]

to avoid testicular atrophy, preventing this from happening is better than trying to recover from it... there is no need to use nolva during the cycle use this only for post cycle therapy (pct), I would run aromasin or a-dex during to prevent bloat (if this is an issue) or if you are prone to gyno... I use aromasin @20mg eod which works just fine for me

 

[gixxerk2]

Yep, thats a good cycle but you only need one inject of test e since its a long acting ester also i would run 300mgs of deca once a wk.....for best results jt

yes you could take 1x shoot a week for me personally I beleive that spreading the shots out helps keep more stable blood levels preventing high spikes which gives you greater chances of negative side effects (if you are prone)... just my 2c

 

[Maffie]

Simple rule for PHs is that they provide less results with all the sides(and sometimes more)