Professional input please

[stedhead]

hello to all..

need abit of input on this cycle:

10 week deca-organon 3ml/300mg weekly
4 weeks Anabol (pink thai) 20 mg daily

1)how much roughly should i expect to put on from cycle?

2) when and what should i use for post cycle therapy (pct)? anything apart from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) please.only have access to nolva/proviron/ovinum

3)also i hopefully will be starting cycle in august and ramadhan(fasting for whole month)is roughly in november,so is this enough time for not rapidly losing gains?

all sensible input appreciated

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[jcp2]

I would throw in an amp of test or some proviron, but you could gain 20 depending on how hard you busy your ass in the gym, your diet, and experience.

 

[stedhead]

can anyone be abit specific please to my questions..thanks

 

[StoneColdNTO]

10 week deca-organon 3ml/300mg weekly
4 weeks Anabol (pink thai) 20 mg daily

1)how much roughly should i expect to put on from cycle?

2) when and what should i use for post cycle therapy (pct)? anything apart from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) please.only have access to nolva/proviron/ovinum

Welcome to the board !!

1)- Hard to say, there are many variables that determine that.

2)- Start Clomid (Ovinum) 3 weeks after last Deca injection as follows;
Day 1 - 300mg (optional)
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

 

[einstein1905]

Deca without test is a bad idea IMO......there's too much potential for sides, which can be offset by using test with it. The anabol up front will serve as androgen enough, but the 6 weeks+ following will be devoid of androgens entirely (endogenous too), which is not ideal.
Add some test or at least proviron throughout.
Nobody can predict what you'll gain. It'll be dependent on your own physiology and diet+rest+training

Not to state the obvious, but Ramadan is very unhealthy.

 

[stedhead]

Deca without test is a bad idea IMO......there's too much potential for sides, which can be offset by using test with it. The anabol up front will serve as androgen enough, but the 6 weeks+ following will be devoid of androgens entirely (endogenous too), which is not ideal.
Add some test or at least proviron throughout.
Nobody can predict what you'll gain. It'll be dependent on your own physiology and diet+rest+training

Not to state the obvious, but Ramadan is very unhealthy.

cant agree with you about ramadhan! but rather than test how much proviron should i administer ? so wat is a safe dosage of prov. to take from day 1 of my cycle to last day?

thanks

 

[stedhead]

Re: Re: Professional input please

Welcome to the board !!

1)- Hard to say, there are many variables that determine that.

2)- Start Clomid (Ovinum) 3 weeks after last Deca injection as follows;
Day 1 - 300mg (optional)
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day

thankyou for the warm welcome...i feel at home already..lol!

ok excellent!

what other option is there for day 1? if i dont take 300mg ovinum will 100mg be ok for day 1?

thanks again

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Re: Re: Re: Professional input please

what other option is there for day 1? if i dont take 300mg ovinum will 100mg be ok for day 1?

thanks again

Some guys feel that the front-load of 300 isn't neccessary, they just go with 100 from the start.

 

[jcp2]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Professional input please

Some guys feel that the front-load of 300 isn't neccessary, they just go with 100 from the start.

I actually like to start about a week or so before i am supposed to and run 100mg until i start getting morning wood again, then i drop it to 50mg for 1-2 weeks, usually depending on what compounds i ran.

 

[stedhead]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Professional input please

Some guys feel that the front-load of 300 isn't neccessary, they just go with 100 from the start.

ok...hmm very handy the info..thanks..

do you have any opinions on the time i should take my anabol? when i say time i mean would it be ok to shift it from the start of cycle to the middle?(not first 4 weeks but the second 4 weeks) or does it not really matter?

also have you heard of legalon? would that be ok to take during cycle? it is for repairing liver values due to c-17 alpha. Anabol?

thanks

 

[einstein1905]

cant agree with you about ramadhan! but rather than test how much proviron should i administer ? so wat is a safe dosage of prov. to take from day 1 of my cycle to last day?

thanks

At least 50mg/day of proviron. I'd also add B6 to control prolactin from the deca. Use milk thistle (silymarin) at >500mg/day for liver health.

Use the anabol up front, since that's where the lag will be with the deca.

 

[stedhead]

At least 50mg/day of proviron. I'd also add B6 to control prolactin from the deca. Use milk thistle (silymarin) at >500mg/day for liver health.

Use the anabol up front, since that's where the lag will be with the deca.

excellent...so many things to take eh! B6 and where do i get that from? is it essential?
is it true that there is deficiancy of vitamin b6 when on the cycle? also where to get milk thistle?

also 50mg/day proviron for 8 weeks would be fine?

my bills gonna run higher than expected..phew! lol!

 

[DADAWG]

excellent...so many things to take eh! what the heck is B6 and where do i get that from? is it essential?

also 50mg/day proviron for 8 weeks would be fine?

my bills gonna run higher than expected..phew! lol!

b-6 is a vitamin , you can get it just about anywhere and its cheap

 

[stedhead]

b-6 is a vitamin , you can get it just about anywhere and its cheap

thans dawg--just read about it as you posted...lol! hmmm..so there is lack of b6 when on my cycle?

 

[DADAWG]

thans dawg--just read about it as you posted...lol! hmmm..so there is lack of b6 when on my cycle?

no it has shown to help fight progesterone gyno

 

[stedhead]

Where can i get milk thistle from(silymarin)from? and how long should i take it for during cycle? is it all the way through? also how long and how much b6 should i take?

thanks again ppl

 

[stedhead]

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[einstein1905]

Where can i get milk thistle from(silymarin)from? and how long should i take it for during cycle? is it all the way through? also how long and how much b6 should i take?

thanks again ppl

Any vitamin shop will sell milk thistle....just read the label and base your dosage of standardized extract and not raw content. take it throughout,.....it's cheap. I use it ED year-round.
B6 at 200mg/day from the very start of your cycle....even take it all the way up to post cycle therapy (pct) (through post cycle therapy (pct) if you want, as prolactin contributes to HPTA shutdown too)

 

[stedhead]

Any vitamin shop will sell milk thistle....just read the label and base your dosage of standardized extract and not raw content. take it throughout,.....it's cheap. I use it ED year-round.
B6 at 200mg/day from the very start of your cycle....even take it all the way up to post cycle therapy (pct) (through post cycle therapy (pct) if you want, as prolactin contributes to HPTA shutdown too)

nice one...

the milk thistle i can get in capsule form..think its 100mg per cap..would 3 caps ED be fine?

also ive been told to start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after cycle,is it not safe to post cycle therapy (pct) say about 2 weeks after or a week even?


help appreciated

 

[StoneColdNTO]

also ive been told to start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after cycle,is it not safe to post cycle therapy (pct) say about 2 weeks after or a week even?

Yes......3 weeks after Deca, you have to wait that long in order for enough of the steroid to clear your system so it will not still be keeping your HPTA suppressed.