Proposed 1st cycle plan. Take it apart if you like.

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35 almost 36
5'6"
156lbs
11-13% BF
Been training for 15 years now. Former strength athlete was 200 naturally but around 18%BF. Injuries caused me to back off and spend time rehabbing and getting healthy, now looking to push and compete in Oly (seniors)

8-10wks of Prop 100eod (Prop is the most readily available and highest quality I can get. Not thrilled with extra pinning but safety of compound is important)

PCT would start 3 days after the last pin
Clom 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I am looking for HcG would add it from the beginning of the cycle. (500iu weekly if possible)

Will get Armidex for an ai. .25mg EOD from wk2 until end of cycle)

Edited with changes from 3J. Thank you.
 
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i would wait 6 days after last pin to start pct.. .

run clomid 50mg ed the whole time..

and if you get hcg its better to run it from the start at 500iu weekly.. blasting has its issues

have an ai on hand... running 100mg of prop will possibly take your estrogen up
 
Looks like a solid first cycle. I'd personally bump the amount of prop you're injecting as 350mg a week seems a bit low, however you WILL definitely make gains off this dose. I just look at it from the perspective of "if you're going to pin upwards of 35 times, why not get a little more out of it".

As far as HcG, It should be run throughout the entire cycle rather than just the end. I would suggest 250iu x2 a week for the first 6 weeks, 500iu x2 a week for the last 2 weeks. (Assuming you get a 5000iu vial)

Only thing left to critique would be the lack of an AI while on cycle. Adex or Aromasin would be the two products to look at.
 
Edited it above with your changes. If any estrogen issues arise start with .25 or .5 Armidex in your opinion?


I have had all my blood work done and it is immaculate for my age.
 
Looks like a solid first cycle. I'd personally bump the amount of prop you're injecting as 350mg a week seems a bit low, however you WILL definitely make gains off this dose. I just look at it from the perspective of "if you're going to pin upwards of 35 times, why not get a little more out of it".

As far as HcG, It should be run throughout the entire cycle rather than just the end. I would suggest 250iu x2 a week for the first 6 weeks, 500iu x2 a week for the last 2 weeks. (Assuming you get a 5000iu vial)

Only thing left to critique would be the lack of an AI while on cycle. Adex or Aromasin would be the two products to look at.

i dont think he needs to bump it up.. its his first cycle.. fresh receptors.. he will do great on it
 
35 almost 36
5'6"
156lbs
11-13% BF
Been training for 15 years now. Former strength athlete was 200 naturally but around 18%BF. Injuries caused me to back off and spend time rehabbing and getting healthy, now looking to push and compete in Oly (seniors)

8-10wks of Prop 100eod (Prop is the most readily available and highest quality I can get. Not thrilled with extra pinning but safety of compound is important)

PCT would start 3 days after the last pin
Clom 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I am looking for HcG would add it from the beginning of the cycle. (500iu weekly if possible)

Will get Armidex for an ai. .25mg EOD from wk2 until end of cycle)

Edited with changes from 3J. Thank you.

Looks pretty good - if you were a bit heavier I would suggest more test but I'm thinking for a smaller guy 350/wk will be plenty on your first cycle.

Eat to take advantage of the hormones, don't neglect your training and sleep - think of AAS as a multiplier...anything * 0 = zero.
 
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