Proviron - to decrease SHBG and Estrogen?

[Colin297]

Okay guys,

some of you will know that ive got high estrogen and SHBG levels due to finasteride which i have now quit for many months. I'll probably be trying aromasin in the coming weeks.

I was however interested in what anyone thought of PROVIRON for this purpose?

I know it reduces SHBG and estrogen which is what i require. But, firstly, note that im not on any cycle or ever have been. What dosage would be too strong?

Secondly, the risk of lowering my testostone or even my natural DHT levels via negative feedback loop. What is the real risk here?

Thirdly, how long could/should one run with proviron for? On its own. Would it be possible for my body to reset afterwards so my estrogen and SHBG would now be normalised or would this be unlikely from proviron?


I probably won't opt for any protocol of proviron but i do think maybe a pill or two (25mg!) could help between now and me starting aromasin? Is there any risk of taking af few 25mg doses?


Thanks,

COlin

 

[Repo]

I'm not sure if proviron will help your situation - but this might give you a starting point...

I've been taking proviron for around a month and have liked 50mg a day so much that I've started taking 75mg's.

Typically 25mg a day several times a day is how I dose it.

Proviron frees up test so I don't think you face any risk of reducing test at all?

I get mine from uncle Z - who is a sponsor here at Ology - regardless of where you get it - you can go to his site and find it listed under international or domestic orals...

The reason I point this out is he has a detailed description of proviron which might give you the information you are looking for.

I've been very pleased with his line - incase you do decide to run with it.

By the way how much finistride were you taking a day to shut you down like that?

 

[UserAt204]

Repo has it right except proviron is suppressive to natural test even though it increases free test. For someone not on cycle it may have a slightly inhibiting effect. Now some guys use it on post cycle therapy (pct) so it can't be too bad but unfortunately it is suppressive. If you take it occasionally it might not be bad but also may not produce the effects your looking for.

Colin have you ever considered running some test? Not advising just asking? Do you know what your levels are? Or have they not been effected?

 

[Repo]

Repo has it right except proviron is suppressive to natural test even though it increases free test. For someone not on cycle it may have a slightly inhibiting effect. Now some guys use it on post cycle therapy (pct) so it can't be too bad but unfortunately it is suppressive. If you take it occasionally it might not be bad but also may not produce the effects your looking for.

Colin have you ever considered running some test? Not advising just asking? Do you know what your levels are? Or have they not been effected?

That's interesting and good to know - thanks for passing this on!

 

[UserAt204]

No problem but it is great when on cycle. And just so we are clear the suppression is mild but who can really say how much it will cause if that makes any sense.

 

[Repo]

I don't want to hijack the thread - but would you recommend adding aromasin throughout a cycle with proviron - if you didn't have any sides like gyno or anything - any benefits?

No problem but it is great when on cycle. And just so we are clear the suppression is mild but who can really say how much it will cause if that makes any sense.

 

[Colin297]

Repo has it right except proviron is suppressive to natural test even though it increases free test. For someone not on cycle it may have a slightly inhibiting effect. Now some guys use it on post cycle therapy (pct) so it can't be too bad but unfortunately it is suppressive. If you take it occasionally it might not be bad but also may not produce the effects your looking for.

Colin have you ever considered running some test? Not advising just asking? Do you know what your levels are? Or have they not been effected?

No, testosterone is top level. It's actually slightly above top range

Unfortunately my e2 is even higher again.




I was taking 1mg of finasteride per day. It's not really HPTA shutdown considering i still have decent LH and high test, but my SHBG and Estrogen are high and my FSH is actually low.

 

[Repo]

I just started taking finasteride as a preemptive measure - as I don't have any hair loss or anything - but it's looking like it's best to stay away from it...


1mg a day isn't even much - that's the dose I started using but it's only been a week now.

No, testosterone is top level. It's actually slightly above top range

Unfortunately my e2 is even higher again.




I was taking 1mg of finasteride per day. It's not really HPTA shutdown considering i still have decent LH and high test, but my SHBG and Estrogen are high and my FSH is actually low.

 

[Colin297]

I just started taking finasteride as a preemptive measure - as I don't have any hair loss or anything - but it's looking like it's best to stay away from it...


1mg a day isn't even much - that's the dose I started using but it's only been a week now.

Well i do warn everyone of the risks, they are real. Some guy's have literally had their lives wrecked on it.

Heres the interesting thing. Merck did a study YEARS ago saying the 5mg a day (proscar) for prostrate cancer did give notable sexual sides. It's also been largely found that 1mg and 5mg isn't as different as you would think. YET their propecia study (1mg) states much less sides. In practice the sides reported from the 5mg usage seem to be more accurate.

I definately wouldn't be taking a DHT surpressant (not even saw pal) as a proactive measure. That's crazy, mate.

 

[Teutonic]

Proviron is one of my fav compounds..it s mild both as a aas and as an anti e..libido run s amock while on it.

I would not take aromasine unless you need it.

A cycle for me nowaday s is
test 500 max
proviron 50 ed
an oral dbol @50 ed or anavar 60-100 ed

But then I m older....

 

[Colin297]

Proviron is one of my fav compounds..it s mild both as a aas and as an anti e..libido run s amock while on it.

I would not take aromasine unless you need it.

A cycle for me nowaday s is
test 500 max
proviron 50 ed
an oral dbol @50 ed or anavar 60-100 ed

But then I m older....

Well what would you consider "needing" it (aromasin), then?

Estrogen : 173pmol/l (<150pmol/l)

would 25mg per day of provirion for a few weeks be much a surpressant on a none steroid user like me?

 

[Teutonic]

My response was to repo not you ..sorry I shoulda been more specific in my response.

 

[Repo]

That's what I thought - I have two bottles from RUI - but wasn't quite sure if it was beneficial to run it throughout the cycle.

Thanks Teutonic - I know your advise is solid!

I love Proviron too - along with my libido and my wife.

Proviron is one of my fav compounds..it s mild both as a aas and as an anti e..libido run s amock while on it.

I would not take aromasine unless you need it.

A cycle for me nowaday s is
test 500 max
proviron 50 ed
an oral dbol @50 ed or anavar 60-100 ed

But then I m older....

 

[GetSwoll]

Primaldrol 4000 they sell it at GNC it blocks estrogen. I should know i am taking HCG you know hoping it works. im too big but in shape. had to get on HCG to drop a few to gain more muscle while losing fat and get bigger. but im Swoll.

Primaldrol 4000 buddy

 

[UserAt204]

GetSwoll are you saying you are doing the hcg diet. Isn't that a 500cal diet?

 

[Colin297]

any more opinions on this?

Proviron when not on cycle? Say 25mg ED for a few weeks?