Puffy Nipples close to end of cycle/Letro Dosage

JayJayAre

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I'm currently running a Test E (500wk)/Var (40ed)cycle. I am on my tenth week. I was looking to run for 13-14 weeks but unfortunately, i made a few mistakes and ran out of test e on week 10. I was running adex at .25 eod.

I have not had any symptoms of lumps or pain but I noticed my nipples have gotten puffy. When I noticed the puffyness i began running adex at .5ed but that didn't seem to help. I ordered some Letro from rui to try to remove the puffiness and stop any gyno that may begin to occur.

I have done a few searches but can't seem to find a good answer on what my dosage should be. If I cannot get my hands on more test e I am just gonna end my cycle and start the pct in 2 weeks. What should my letro dosage be if I cut my cycle? And what should it be if I end up running it for the full 13-14 weeks?
 
Running letro to prevent gyno:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Letro will be the most powerful Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the letro approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that letro takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don***8217;t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gyno after using letro for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run letro there is absolutely no need to run another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if letro is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolva will only take away from the effectiveness of letro.

(Removed a couple of sentences from article here that we don't believe is factual. Our apologies to the author but we must protect our readers. The mere fact we use the article over and over should show our respect for your writing.) If you are running nolva as your anti-e and start to develop gyno than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gyno?
If you have developed gyno you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your post cycle therapy (pct) so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular post cycle therapy (pct).

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can***8217;t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into post cycle therapy (pct) and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely.
 
90% of gyno cases on these boards is internet paranoia so before you crash your estrogen levels in the basement and kill your joints and cholesterol make sure its not just a little bloat .
 
90% of gyno cases on these boards is internet paranoia so before you crash your estrogen levels in the basement and kill your joints and cholesterol make sure its not just a little bloat .

haha good call.

im like a fucking cripple at the minuite on this letro, but i definitely do have gyno, it has halfed in size over the last 5-6 weeks though so it is working. can't wait to get off it though!!!!!
 
I have some gyno left from puberty and tried to get rid of it with letro - gave up after 3 weeks because my joints couldn't take it

yeah letro is torture haha

i had mine cut out last year from my teen age. thats why im hoping this letro does wipe it completly i dont want to go through surgery again to be honest.
 
yeah letro is torture haha

i had mine cut out last year from my teen age. thats why im hoping this letro does wipe it completly i dont want to go through surgery again to be honest.

I've been thinking for a while - I've heard that being on test keeps libido up (while letro would diminish it - so it evens out) - maybe I should just do a 10 week cycle of test e and letro, and try and get rid of my gyno once and for all? Not sure if I could take the joint stress though... heh
 
Been running Rui's letro according to

Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

starting from 7/10. On my 12th day. Unfortunately the puffyness is still there. My last test shot was the 7/8 and I'm finishing up my Anavar (var) so I'm getting ready to start my post cycle therapy (pct). Hopefully with the nolva something will help. What's weird is that my libido and joints are fine. Maybe my batch is under dosed?
 
Been running Rui's letro according to

Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

starting from 7/10. On my 12th day. Unfortunately the puffyness is still there. My last test shot was the 7/8 and I'm finishing up my Anavar (var) so I'm getting ready to start my post cycle therapy (pct). Hopefully with the nolva something will help. What's weird is that my libido and joints are fine. Maybe my batch is under dosed?

IF you're at 2.5 mg, there is something wrong with your letro.
 
Just to make sure i'm getting this right, 1ml = 2.5mg right?

If this is the case then what's my next move? How often has rui's letro been known to be bunk?
 
I'm currently taking rui letro. I started taking it to reverse some early gyno symptoms (pretty serious itching and some pain in the fatty tissue behind and around the nipple). I ramped up to 2.5/day and it quickly solved the problem. After doing a little more research, I decided that 2.5/day was overkill and ramped back down to .5/day and the itching came back. I went back to 2.5 and the itching is gone (more or less). I haven't gotten any extra joint pain over this 2 or 3 week process. I assume the letro is underdosed or has been rendered less potent by the liquefying process.
 
The bottle says 30mL 2.5mg/mL.

I have been using a syringe to pull 1mL each dos. Since i don't know the actual dosage I'm guessing taking a little bit more is a bad idea.

I don't have any itching or pain. Just puffy.
 
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