Question about prop powder

[NYCEE]

Last order of prop powder i received, the powder was grainy like sugar and had a strong smell to it. I received another order from the same source today, and the prop powder is much finer like flour and doesnt have such a potent smell. Just wondering if this is normal. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

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[ld50]

I would test melting points, then contact your source.

 

[jarbulldog]

sounds fishy to me

 

[NYCEE]

I have already sent the source an email. He is one of the oldest in the business so i highly doubt he would fake anything, if anything maybe he put something else accidently. I will try and see what the melting point is.

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[BigRonWannabee]

YGPM

 

[NYCEE]

My source got back to me. He said that it could be from heat during shipping (Which i doubt being that props MP is so high) or from a different batch. He said he stands behind his products and that if for any reason i am unhappy after trying it he will resend more for free. I am still a little nervous to use it as all prop powders ive seen are textured like sugar and this is a lot more fine. Anyone ever see prop powder like this? Thanks

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[NYCEE]

Is there a way to get it tested where the test will show me the hormone and ester? Any help is appreciated. Thanks

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[BigRonWannabee]

Is there a way to get it tested where the test will show me the hormone and ester? Any help is appreciated. Thanks

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Best you can do is get a really accuate digital oven thermometer, put it right next to the prop powder in the over (as far away from the heating coils as possible) and slowely increase the temp until it melts. Then compare that melting point to the ones listed for all hormone powders. If its got the consistancy of powdered sugar, smells like prop but not as strong, and melts around tne's melting point, you can bet its tne. Ive been through this exact shit before, best bet is to get your source to compensate for his mistake, if its not granular small shiny crystals, its not prop.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

This is TNE

 

[NYCEE]

Forgive my ignorance, but what is TNE? And what is it's meting point? That looks a lot like what i have. I will try and do a melting point test tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for the help bro.

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[NYCEE]

After thinking about it for a second. Does it stand for test no ester? Thanks

 

[pullinbig]

prop and no ester are so close its not detectable in effectiveness. NE is slightly stronger. they both make up with ba and bb. tne goes at 5% ba and 15% bb while prop goes 3% and 9%. you may like the NE better. cant loose either way. biggest diff is frequency of injects. NE needs to be ed while prop can go eod. have at it bro.

 

[FTC]

After thinking about it for a second. Does it stand for test no ester? Thanks

yes, tne= test no ester

 

[NYCEE]

prop and no ester are so close its not detectable in effectiveness. NE is slightly stronger. they both make up with ba and bb. tne goes at 5% ba and 15% bb while prop goes 3% and 9%. you may like the NE better. cant loose either way. biggest diff is frequency of injects. NE needs to be ed while prop can go eod. have at it bro.

well the problem is i cant be 100% sure what it even is. I really dont want to inject something i dont know for sure what it is. Ive emailed the source to see if he can send me the right stuff. Also, i believe i am sensitive to high BA, id rather go with the one that will go into solution with less solvent. Thanks for the help.


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[pullinbig]

5% ba is not high and 15% bb will not bother anybody. what makes you think you are sensitive to BA? sumpin happen?

 

[NYCEE]

Well i ran test at 5% ba and a tried a different one at 1% ba. The 5% made me feel like i got punched in the arm for a few days, the 1% would bother me a little bit, but nothing compared to the 5%. Of course there could be other variables in this as both were from UG labs. But im going to have to think the one with 5% ba is probably cleaner as it was a new lab at the time and they were trying to establish a name. Unless the 5% was more potent and i am sensitive to the enanthate esther. I cant know for sure yet as i havent ran UG lab shit since and will never again now that i make my own. I try to keep my BA % low to avoid having painful gear. That's why i said i "believe" i am sensitive to BA. Regardless, i dont know for sure what the powder is, could be Winstrol (winny), cyb, or base for all i know.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

You'll probably never know for sure. How many g's did you get? To protect his rep, he probably will never disclose what it is. Thats open admission to switching powders. Unless it truely was an error on a workers part or something. Do the mp test and post results.

 

[Bimmer]

tell him to credit you. Also make the batch that you know is prop, than see if the other batch goes into solution the same. Does it take more/less ba, bb and how much heating. You know, compare the two.

 

[NYCEE]

You'll probably never know for sure. How many g's did you get? To protect his rep, he probably will never disclose what it is. Thats open admission to switching powders. Unless it truely was an error on a workers part or something. Do the mp test and post results.

It is 100G's. He emailed me back and said he is going to send out the prop to me immediately. He also said he is going to speak with his colleagues who help him with shipping out the products, to see what happened. Well i have an extra 100G's of "something" laying around. Time to work on figuring out what it is. I have to see if i can get an oven thermometer that goes high enough in temp to do a MP test, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks

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[NYCEE]

tell him to credit you. Also make the batch that you know is prop, than see if the other batch goes into solution the same. Does it take more/less ba, bb and how much heating. You know, compare the two.

I could do that too, but im going to try the melting point test first as i can do the test by just wasting a little bit. Thanks

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