1000mg Test only...Time to see for myself!

STAUNCHED427

Elite Juicer
Running 1G Test year round

Allright fellas, flame away go nuts...

I've been contemplating this idea for months and months, but have always been put off due to me being sensitive to test aromatising into e2 quite badly, which only becomes a problem with gyno and actually fills me out quite well, but anyway.

I've been leaning under the impression that the idea of what we all call reaching a platuea, hitting a wall, call it what you will of AAS no longer working after a certain length of time due to various factors such as cortisol, myostatin, the body only being able to slap on as much tissue in short it trying to reach homeostasis in a specific amount of time etc all really not as big of an influencing factor as we all think. Ofcourse, this is my theory that I once firmly believed in but am starting to think otherwise after really looking into it a lot more and most importantly from mates who I have seen do this and discredit it.

Most of us think that we build a tolerance to AAS, hence why blasting and cruising, as well as the fact that the body needs that cruise time to just give it a rest in general. However... AAS are not your typical drug in the sense of for example an opiod, in which receptor downregulation occurs and more of the drug is needed to reach the desired effect. No. I'm starting to really believe that as some say AAS are hormones and do not work in this fashion that you build a tolerance in the way a typical drug works. Say for example, you are running 1G of test like I plan too and you were cruising on say 200mg of Test...Most here would say after 6-10 weeks you won't get much out of running that 1G anymore than if you drop back down to a cruise in terms of mass and strength gain etc etc... I personally think, and want to find out for myself if this is fact or fiction. IMO, I'm leaning towards it's not that it's the AAS we are building tolerance to (it is to a point, but my main point is we can not all blame this down to cortisol/myostatin etc etc) but rather than training and diet are required to be bumped up. You have 1G of test in your body, hell, I'm sure as fuck you should be able to provided you fuel your body and tear it down in the gym and give it the rest needed be able to eventually reach the mass that your body could sustain on 1G of test without having to blast and cruise, and no I agree it isn't in the best interest of health. Now, this goes against everything I once believed in...But sometimes you need to break down away from the sheep and try things for yourself. A lot of people have said they don't find much after 500mg of Test except for increased sides, some say 750mg say say 1000mg and so on, you will find some guys say the so called "magic" happens above 1000mg, some topping out at 1500, 2000mg and beyond 2000mg I don't find much and personally don't intend on running that amount, but face the facts guys it is not unheard of and there are plenty of guys running well over 1G of test. I have always been honest with my dosing.

Essentially, my plan is currently to bump back up to 500mg of Test as that alone from 250mg I notice a difference as you would expect, and run this dose for a while as I can control my e2 using adex just fine on that amount of test, then as my letro comes in, ramp up to 1000mg of Test and run it for however long... I'm thinking of doing something around the 20 week mark and taking it from there in which I will most likely drop it back down to 250mg depending on a lot of factors that I will weigh up. I will be running letro as mentioned to control e2, run Cialis at 10mg ED possibly a little higher to keep BP under control and will be monitoring it, as well as blood tests and keeping HCT under control as I always do.

Is this healthy? Nope, wouldn't call it healthy. Is this smart? Let's be serious, our bodies were never intended to be having syntehtic variants of Test or have supraphysiologcal levels of Test itself so AAS use in general is not "healthy", but in all honesty I think Test itself it the safest simply because it is natural to the body albeit in shitload higher amounts than naturally produced and to be honest I think running 1G of Test with the right ancillaries and bloodwork is far safer than a cycle involving Trenbolone a lone... Let's be serious here fellas. At one point I ran 1000mg of Test for 4 weeks and filled out and was impressed in every aspect by the end of that 4 weeks, moodwise, energy wise, libido wise, appetite wise, lookswise obviously the big one. I've got a mate of mine who has been running a combo of Test Prop/Cyp for over a year now totalling 1000mg with 3mg of Adex per week and is lean, vascular, and makes steady continuous gains... Throws in a little Winny here and there but he loves his Test.

Anyway, any fellas that have done this, or do this... I know some guys cruise on 1G of test alone, would love to hear input or comments. Ofcourse, my goal is to run that amount and feed the shit out of my body and really increase my rest and training and see how I go.

Flame, comment, whatever you want away!
 
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It all seems a bit confusing in that post, but call it a blast of 1000mg Test only per week.

Except I'm not dictating this blast based on a set time, my plan is to end this blast once I push the limits of this dosage and see if the results stop as you would expect. Once they stop, I don't intend to end the blast, but rather to keep blasting at 1G test and change up training and increase calories as I feel that most people blame the gear and that your body has reached homoeostasis as a reason why you don't gain anymore. I guess my point quite simply is that I am starting to think it's the diet and training that becomes the cause of plateau, not the body reaching homeostasis to the amount of hormones (to a point, yes, but it is not the main reason). I think you should be able to reach the amount 1G of Test would allow you to carry, provided you can fuel and train the body to get there.

If you get what I mean... 250mg Test will allow you to carry around whatever 250mg can possibly sustain. If you keep at it, training, eating, cutting when required, eating etc you will eventually, however long this takes whether this be a couple years, reach a point where 250mg of Test can only hold X amount of mass. Now, 250mg of Test would allow you to hold a solid amount of mass, but there will become a point where if you want to hold or build more, or atleast maintain whatever you build from higher doses, you will need to be "cruising" on a little more than that. Granted I am not at the limit of what 250mg can maintain, I'd like to push the limits. Essentially I'm just going to be running 1G of test and not think about it, rather set it at that, run it and focus on training diet and when I hit platueas, not go "oh, I need to cruise for a bit or maybe I need to switch compounds or up it a bit" but rather go, maybe I just simply need to take a week or two off from training and rest, or up my calories a little more, maybe try switch around my training style, increase the volume, go heavier... Rest more.

See my point? 1000mg of Test is artificially setting my genetic limit from whatever it would be at naturally for example say whatever 100mg of Test could do, to now 1000mg of Test. The way I see it, although gains may not be rapid as seen on a cycle, rather slow and steady but week by week noticable gains. I know lots of people personally have done this and are big guys, I've also read guys being honest with there doses and mentioning this. Heck, even 750mg of Test I would do this with, But I'd like to push the envelope a little and see what 1000mg of Test can do for me. I do well on 250mg of Test with this style of method, 1000mg should only allow me to push it even more.

I'll post before and after shots and the end of all this, keep updated with bloodwork etc. I don't mind being a guinea pig, I have been wanting to do this for quite some time, except the difference is instead of just doing it and keeping quiet about it, we're on a fucking AAS forum and I think a lot of us forget this and what we are really doing here. I personally feel running 1G of Test for 20+ weeks is far less wreckless and dangerous than a lot of the multi-compound stacks involving orals and tren that we see around here. Heck, I think orals and tren are the most dangerous AAS and that 1G of Test when run with ancillaries is far less damaging than running orals or Tren.

They say Test is best for a reason. Anyone who has run Tren or orals is crazy to think a solid dose of Test is any worse, like I said if anything your better off.
 
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I understand. Actually, 1g of test a week will be one of my cycles soon. I've always wondered how it'll be. I can guess that it'll be amazing, just simply out of this world. Imagine how 500-750 mg test makes you feel... DOUBLE that. 750mg Test E was my first cycle ever 2 years ago. Since then I've lowered test and added more compounds. I've never felt as good on other compounds and low dose test as I did running 750 mg test a week.

Listen man, you're expecting flaming and people ranting, but it's your body, your life, you do what you want. I know damn right I'm doing what I want that some people won't agree with here. And some say that people taking it to the extreme are the ones that give gear a bad rap by abusing them. At the end of the day, it's not the gear's fault, it's our fault and we will be living with our bodies carrying it around, not anybody else. Do as you wish, but be careful. Overall, I don't think 1G test is even a big deal. If you do it, make a log, I'd like to see!
 
I understand. Actually, 1g of test a week will be one of my cycles soon. I've always wondered how it'll be. I can guess that it'll be amazing, just simply out of this world. Imagine how 500-750 mg test makes you feel... DOUBLE that. 750mg Test E was my first cycle ever 2 years ago. Since then I've lowered test and added more compounds. I've never felt as good on other compounds and low dose test as I did running 750 mg test a week.

Listen man, you're expecting flaming and people ranting, but it's your body, your life, you do what you want. I know damn right I'm doing what I want that some people won't agree with here. And some say that people taking it to the extreme are the ones that give gear a bad rap by abusing them. At the end of the day, it's not the gear's fault, it's our fault and we will be living with our bodies carrying it around, not anybody else. Do as you wish, but be careful. Overall, I don't think 1G test is even a big deal. If you do it, make a log, I'd like to see!

My point isn't entirely to just run a blast of 1G test, but rather see how I go on it and maybe if things work out and I like the results, and prove that it's not resistance or tolerance or homeostasis to the high level or hormone but rather than diet and training needs adjustment to keep gaining and seeing results, that I would actually provided if bloodwork comes out good, BP can be controlled actually cruise on this amount. It is turns out I can't tolerate it and that I get no more out of it than I do at 250mg, I'll drop it back to 250mg. Health is important, but like I said, 750-1G of Test run with ancillaries IMO is nothing compared to the damage that Tren or even what is considered responsible oral dosing can do to you. It does come down to how my bloodwork pans out on it. But comparing 250mg to 500mg along, the fullness, extra endurance, increased libido, mood etc itself are big enough benefit and if bloodwork shows it's not doing anything seriously bad, then why the fuck not?

And yeah like you mentioned E, no other compound makes me feel as good as what test does, except for Dbol maybe. Now Deca, great mass builder and I love the shit, I know if I run 500mg of Deca and eat I will put good size on, I've done it and loved it, but it doesn't give the edge that Test does and I just get that feeling that long-term isn't as safe as what an equivalent dose of Test would be but it sure as hell builds muscle btu I love the effects on joints it has for me. EQ? Next the pointless, I started a little run but finished off the first bottle and gave the rest away... An equivalent dose of Test without question is going to blow it out the water. Tren? Highly doubt it will be run again, but I plan on going competitive so it is inevitable and I'll have to deal with the sides plus it will do a number on your health this is absolute fact. Orals... Dbol fills me out and makes me feel good like Test etc.

Basically I think Test is very versatile and underated, with an AI I simply can't see why, well actually fact is you can do anything with it. Ofcourse, other AAS have their place no doubt. Everyone knows I'm not a fan of orals basically because I think they are real shit for you on the inside, Tren the same and I hate the sides. I really wanna see what I can do with Test. Come time for competition ofcourse, I will be utilising other AAS. I'll walk that bridge when I get to it though.
 
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1hram of test isnt significant at all, the guy who introduced me to test does a gram every cycle and adds other compounds too...1cc of t400 e3d plus w/e... Usually does tren e 1cc e3d and hes even added in masteron to that once lol... Hes a madman, he is gluten and dairy free too. He was vegan, still kinda is but has cheat days every so often.

O and he will add in deca or eq to the mix as well... Its messed up, he doesnt use an ai, has never had gyno, doesnt count his calories, has all his hair, never gets acne, and is always shredded... Asshole, LOL!!!
 
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Yup! You'll be fine! I know this from experience....my last 2 cycles were/ARE 500mg Test E e5d, for 24 weeks, so essentially cruising at about 750mg/wk. For this cycle, I was planning to see just how long I can continue with it!

I'm not concerned with kids (already caught my limit), and have been on HRT for a couple of years...
 
Yep, my goal was not to give it a quick run of 1000mg, rather to cruise at 1000mg or blast at 1000mg and if I love it so much just keep running it for however long it pleases me! My goal is to disprove the theory that you must either switch compounds or cruise and then re-blast to achieve continious goals.

Honestly, if you want to get an idea of what I expect at running 1000mg Test year round with an AI and Cialis? I expect to feel fucking great, be even hornier, be strong as fuck, have that stamina in the gym that test seems to give, be able to gain provided I throw the calories and building blocks my body needs and stimulate it.

Essentially, I think that 1000mg of Test year round is a little radical for the average gym goer and classified as abuse by many... But if I can tolerate it and bloodwork comes back fine, I see no problem with it. As a blast I don't think it's that bad, but for a cruise, while heavy, I think I may even be able to avoid the whole dropping the dose etc and switching compounds I mean, Test is great!

Will absolutely keep a log on this. This will be week one at 500mg Test, I'll continue at this dose until my letro arrives and then bump it up to 1000mg and really see what happens.
 
Honestly man, on straight test I noticed no difference over 750mg/wk. I just had an increase in all of the sides. Everyones body is different though. Not sure what Esther you said you were using but you should break that up into as many pins as you can. At the hire levels I found my hormone levels would swing a bit more which for me personally increases my acne. When I keep the levels as even as possible I find that deep painful acne occurs less. Not sure if anyone else has the same thing. But that is my experience.
 
Test Enanthate is the test I use... Even whilst cruising on 200mg I still split it 2x weekly. My plan was to keep it at 2x weekly at 1000mg but I may make the jump to 750mg Test for a little bit before finally ramping up to 1000mg. I do agree that even with long esters, splitting up the dose WILL keep blood levels more stable (Esters peak and then slowly self taper down, not slowly build up as many people believe) however if I was going to go with anything more than 2x a week I would split it up at 3x weekly MWF but IMO isn't necessary and have always done better on 2x weekly compared to 1x so need need to change it and it's only 2CC shots 2x weekly.

I have never ran 750mg of Test before, the highest like I mentioned was 1000mg for 4 weeks and the closest thing I can compare it too was 625mg of Pharma Test which isn't much far off the feeling off 500mg anyway. But, 1000mg absolutely blew that out the water but I just couldn't get my e2 under control however I believe I had a decent amount of nandrolone in my system still and was throwing in a bit of dbol and anadrol at times so I believe that may have contributed and I was making the amatuer mistake of continuously feeling the lump whilst simultaneously telling my mate not to feel his gyno lump because it would make it worse lmao.

Like I said, trial and error, but those 4 weeks of 1000mg Test got me hungry for more, skin was a little bit more oily but not overly unbearable... I don't break out in acne that bad and never get moonface, except for when running dbol and test together. Shit I would still be running it if it wasn't for the gyno at the time. It may turn out that 750mg might be better for me. But if I find 1G is good, I don't plan on going over that. My ultimate goal is to hopefully be able to run 1000mg Test year round, if not 750mg year round instead of continuously fucking around with doses and various compounds etc find myself a steady solid dose of test that is good for me and stick with that.
 
Not sure if you covered this Staunched... I only skimmed. But I would recommend running Ralox in the background as an insurance policy against gyno given your propensity to aromatize. Have fun and be safe.
 
I'm on over a gram of test right now. While there are benefits running it that high, I do advise that you get a blood test after 4 weeks to make sure you're keeping estradiol in check as you state you're gyno prone.

There's no building of tolerance, but more mass simply requires more food and training. These are the limits (sure, genetics come into play eventually) that determine what the drugs will do for you. If you don't adjust these continuously, you WILL plateau, regardless of how many cc's of hormones you throw into the mix.

Ology is the place where many younger or newer folks come to learn about first cycles, this is why advice is often very conservative. I'd hate to see a guy new to AAS attempt to run what I've done in the past as there's a pretty steep learning curve involved as doses/compounds start to build up as there's not only a physical side - but a pretty gnarly psychological side to contend with as well.

Watch E2, train hard, eat right, and you'll see success.

My .02c :)
 
I've heard -- though I've seen no empirical evidence -- of guys running high levels of test but with multiple esters and having good success with that
So perhaps don't just run a gram of test cyp

Run test prop, sustanon, test e and c ,, combined for a total of 1000 mg a week--- not sure why guys are saying they have better gains running diff esters together ,,
Anyone have any ideas ?
 
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I've heard -- though I've seen no empirical evidence -- of guys running high levels of test but with multiple esters and having good success with that
So perhaps don't just run a gram of test cyp

Run test prop, sustanon, test e and c ,, combined for a total of 1000 mg a week--- not sure why guys are saying they have better gains running diff esters together ,,
Anyone have any ideas ?
 
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I've heard -- though I've seen no empirical evidence -- of guys running high levels of test but with multiple esters and having good success with that
So perhaps don't just run a gram of test cyp

Run test prop, sustanon, test e and c ,, combined for a total of 1000 mg a week--- not sure why guys are saying they have better gains running diff esters together ,,
Anyone have any ideas ?

I don't think they've established a proper 'control' to evaluate their test combo...it sounds very bro-sciencey to me

W.r.t cruising on 1g test, I know a few experienced bros (and I'm sure there are many more) who cruise on 500mg e3d which is even more than 1g/wk, relatively-healthy under doctor supervision other than the fact that our bodies really aren't designed to carry ~250lbs of LBM (275-290 offseason weights...)
 
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