Question for Nelson-ephedra

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DADAWG said:
im opening this thread up per TXs instructions but the very first insult hurled will cause it to be closed permenantly . this shit is rediculous the very topics which need to be discussed cant be because of the flaming . everyone has a right to express their opinion as long as its done without flaming .



NO FLAMING ALLOWED




one more thing i dont want a bunch of bs post about he started it or i didnt do anything wrong or anything along those line just post about the topic of this thread and nothing else period . that goes for nelson,victorian guy, jo bob , mary ellen and everyone else .

I must admit, mary ellen was getting out of control. :)
 
DADAWG said:


NO FLAMING ALLOWED


You know....there is one very easy way to fix this little problem we're experiencing.

.....it is called BANNING, and let this serve as notice it is now in full effect. I am just sick and tired of having to edit, lock, and delete shit, it's not funny and I got better things to do.
 
i lost almost 40 pounds using epherdra 2 years ago, and gained it all back blus 18 more in 6 months...of course, my diet turned to shit during those six months and I wasnt training nearly as often. So I would personally say it is a combo of willpower and diet and a regular training interval that will keep a mojrity of the weight off, but you will probably gain some percent back.

Of course, ive had great success with t3 and clenbuterol and hope that this negative feedback mechanism shit doesnt make me gain it all back after I come off. (gain, I will have to keep to a strict diet and watch what I eat anyway inorder to stay lean)
 
DADAWG said:
im opening this thread up per TXs instructions but the very first insult hurled will cause it to be closed permenantly . this shit is rediculous the very topics which need to be discussed cant be because of the flaming . everyone has a right to express their opinion as long as its done without flaming .



NO FLAMING ALLOWED




one more thing i dont want a bunch of bs post about he started it or i didnt do anything wrong or anything along those line just post about the topic of this thread and nothing else period . that goes for nelson,victorian guy, jo bob , mary ellen and everyone else .



If I'm good can I get a hall pass? I have to go to the boys room.
 
anyone ever take a "double dose" of ephedra?


I took 4 dymetadrine xtreme pills once---almost puked

but my body got used to that tooo
 
hammer53 said:
i lost almost 40 pounds using epherdra 2 years ago, and gained it all back blus 18 more in 6 months...of course, my diet turned to shit during those six months and I wasnt training nearly as often.

Well this is the problem with any kind of diet, but especially a diet that isn't tolerable for the long term. It doesn't matter what you do to get to your desired level of leanness, once you go back to eating how you did when you were fat, you're going to get fat.

It's just very difficult for most people to stay away from all the damn sugar, and today we have sugar in damn near everything. And the typical person working in an office environment is bombarded with cake, ice cream, and donuts on a regular basis it's silly. And it's deemed anti-social to not eat a damn donut. 'Hey, I'm a fat pig and my willpower is non-existant, but I will make you feel like you are not a team player if you don't join me playing insulin coma roulette.' And then, to add insult to injury, if you start showing any signs of physical progress, you hear all the 'steroid' rumors. Although those are fine since they are probably true, lol.

Another problem that researchers have found is that many people tend to do everything at once, so they will start a diet as well as a workout routine. Then they start to associate the two together into an all or nothing type of thing. So if they do break down and eat a donut, they will forego the workout because they feel they've already shot themselves in the foot. And around and around they go.
 
This isn't a flame in any way but I don't believe anyone's opinions when they bash a product and then directly follow with where to buy their product that's a little biased if you ask me. Ephedra works plain and simple, I don't care how it works as long as it doesn't kill me which it won't.
 
Ifrit said:
This isn't a flame in any way but I don't believe anyone's opinions when they bash a product and then directly follow with where to buy their product that's a little biased if you ask me. Ephedra works plain and simple, I don't care how it works as long as it doesn't kill me which it won't.

Well the medical establishment has been trying to remove ephedrine from the shelves for awhile, in fact ever since studies showed that ephedrine/caffeine combo was more effective, safer, cheaper, with fewer sides than any available prescription weightloss drug.

The best combo, imo, was ephedrine/caffeine along with ppa (phenylpropnolamine - dexatrim). But they were able to get ppa removed some time ago. It was a great appetite suppressant.
 
TxLonghorn said:
Well the medical establishment has been trying to remove ephedrine from the shelves for awhile, in fact ever since studies showed that ephedrine/caffeine combo was more effective, safer, cheaper, with fewer sides than any available prescription weightloss drug.

The best combo, imo, was ephedrine/caffeine along with ppa (phenylpropnolamine - dexatrim). But they were able to get ppa removed some time ago. It was a great appetite suppressant.
look for ephedrine to return as a prescription drug . and new studies will show it to be perfectly safe now that its prescription and drug companies/doctors can make money on it .:mad:
 
DADAWG said:
look for ephedrine to return as a prescription drug . and new studies will show it to be perfectly safe now that its prescription and drug companies/doctors can make money on it .:mad:

It's been around forever. If you have a pre-existing heart condition, don't take it. If it affects your prostate, don't take it. But that's pretty much it. It's not like it's as dangerous as aspirin or tylenol which account for tons of deaths every year.

For me, dnp is safer because it doesn't make my prostate seize up like ephedrine.
 
Ifrit said:
This isn't a flame in any way but I don't believe anyone's opinions when they bash a product and then directly follow with where to buy their product that's a little biased if you ask me. Ephedra works plain and simple, I don't care how it works as long as it doesn't kill me which it won't.


That isn't really true since I spoke out against ephedra years before I was even approached about making a fat loss supplement. And remember, I could have used stimulent ingredients like yohimbe or nor ephedrine or caffeine, but I maintain that isn't the best approach.

Ephedrine works as long as you're taking it. So does cocaine.
 
so what would you recommend? cocaine or ephedra? is it okay to take these with beer?


but seriously, epehdra does work and it is in the medical literature already. go on pubmed and i guarantee you will find results that support the stuff. nonetheless, some recent "reviews" have been put out to help support the ban.
 
got my zip

getting bad headache after 2 pills --is this normal?


should i space my dosages throughout the day?

i.e 2 in the am
2 in at noon
2 afternoon
2 at night?


Nelson--what do you think of taking eca purely as a pre workout
for energy?
 
brooklynheight said:
got my zip getting bad headache after 2 pills --is this normal?


should i space my dosages throughout the day?

i.e 2 in the am
2 in at noon
2 afternoon
2 at night?


Nelson--what do you think of taking eca purely as a pre workout
for energy?

That's a first. Start with a lower doage and try spacing out the doasges but not right before bed.

I'm not a fan of using ephedra before a workout for the same dependancy reasons. Do that long enough and whenever you don't take the ephedra you'll be dragging your ass. But on occasion, I don't think it should be much of a problem. Actually, using ZIP with a Red Bull gets me pretty jacked.
 
Nelson - Montana said:
Ephedrine works as long as you're taking it. So does cocaine.

Oh my gosh, you are saying that if I stop taking ephedrine, that stops working? Next you'll tell me that diets will stop working if I stop following them.

I'll file this under the 'No shit, Sherlock' file.
 
TxLonghorn said:
Oh my gosh, you are saying that if I stop taking ephedrine, that stops working? Next you'll tell me that diets will stop working if I stop following them.

I'll file this under the 'No shit, Sherlock' file.
:jump:
 
Nelson - Montana said:
That isn't really true since I spoke out against ephedra years before I was even approached about making a fat loss supplement. And remember, I could have used stimulent ingredients like yohimbe or nor ephedrine or caffeine, but I maintain that isn't the best approach.

Nelson - Montana said:
Actually, using ZIP with a Red Bull gets me pretty jacked.

Doesn't red bull have caffeine in it?
 
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