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goingtowin

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From what I know my source is legit but is not pharmacy grade..

Do you guys think this would be any different than taking pharm grade Test E in the long run?


I can't find anything pharm grade and I don't have insurance + my family doctor is stupid but I can't afford anything other..

I am not concerned with the side effects of TRT but I AM concerned with the side effects of TRT that is not from an actual medical source.. I know having faith in your source is important but it's still not from a legitimate medical lab. What do you guys think of this.. I know a few people have mentioned that they self medicate. What are your opinions.


Any concerns? How big is the difference in quality from a medical source and an internet source?? I understand this is a broad question but say my source is good.
 
In my opinion testosterone from a great UGL will work the same way testosterone from a pharmacy will work. Pharmacy grade testosterone is always going to have better quality control, but that is because it has to meet certain standards. As long as your lab is a good lab the testosterone will be fine for TRT purposes. What you really have to worry about is the fact that your doing your own TRT I'm pretty sure we all advised you not to do it in a different thread. If your really going to do your own TRT you need to do a lot of studying, and make sure you have the money for the proper blood work. I would start reading through the TRT section here religiously if I were you.
 
goingtowin said:
From what I know my source is legit but is not pharmacy grade..

Do you guys think this would be any different than taking pharm grade Test E in the long run?


I can't find anything pharm grade and I don't have insurance + my family doctor is stupid but I can't afford anything other..

I am not concerned with the side effects of TRT but I AM concerned with the side effects of TRT that is not from an actual medical source.. I know having faith in your source is important but it's still not from a legitimate medical lab. What do you guys think of this.. I know a few people have mentioned that they self medicate. What are your opinions.


Any concerns? How big is the difference in quality from a medical source and an internet source?? I understand this is a broad question but say my source is good.
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One way is legal, the other way is illegal (depending on where you live). I'd say that is a concern to at least consider
 
Mad- scientist said:
In my opinion testosterone from a great UGL will work the same way testosterone from a pharmacy will work. Pharmacy grade testosterone is always going to have better quality control, but that is because it has to meet certain standards. As long as your lab is a good lab the testosterone will be fine for TRT purposes. What you really have to worry about is the fact that your doing your own TRT I'm pretty sure we all advised you not to do it in a different thread. If your really going to do your own TRT you need to do a lot of studying, and make sure you have the money for the proper blood work. I would start reading through the TRT section here religiously if I were you.
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I have done a lot of reading and I understand all of the risks and how to do proper bloodwork.. I know you guys advised me not to do it but I couldn't take living like that anymore.. I tried a number of different things to get my natural levels back up..

Also mad scientist you seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this forum. Do you mind if a personally message you about something? (EDIT) (it actually has to do with my sources quality.. I'm sure you are pretty knowledgeable in that as well.. If this is against the rules just let me know)
 
I haven't cycled for over 2 years and, just started my TRT a few weeks ago so I honestly have no idea what labs are good or bad at the moment.
 
That is what a source check is read the new members sticky it is in the first 3 rules. See what I mean?

1) DO NOT POST ASKING FOR A SOURCE !! Hang around a while and read the info on the board. IT TAKES TIME!

2) DO NOT POST ANY SOURCE's URLs or e-mail addys.

3) DO NOT DO A SOURCE CHECK ON THE OPEN BOARD !!
This thread How to do a Source Check explains the proper way to do a Source Check
 
Mad- scientist said:
That is what a source check is read the new members sticky it is in the first 3 rules. See what I mean?

1) DO NOT POST ASKING FOR A SOURCE !! Hang around a while and read the info on the board. IT TAKES TIME!

2) DO NOT POST ANY SOURCE's URLs or e-mail addys.

3) DO NOT DO A SOURCE CHECK ON THE OPEN BOARD !!
This thread How to do a Source Check explains the proper way to do a Source Check
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Okay sorry about that.
 
I did not read ur other thread. How old are you ?
Why do u want to take aas forever voluntarily....for medical or bbdg reasons ?
I used to compete when I was 21 ish to 28 ish...and crushed my hpta...to bring home some trophies I left about 3 moves ago.

My level 10 yr s ago was 110 on a 220-1100 scale.

If u get a good source then it s gonna be GOOD test...period.

A good source is not gonna sell bunk gear as bad news spreads 5 x faster than good.
 
I run self TRT. Using UGL too.

I do 250 test e PW. x2 split injections for stable bloods always.

It's been okay, but I will tell u, if that vial is under dosed. U are going to be one unhappy guy. I know..trust me :(


PS: it's a good thing I opted to run 250 PW over 125. Or my levels would have been SO LOW. So I always cruise on 250 from now on. Eventually if I do real trt, i'll go for the usual routine.
 
omgmike1 said:
I run self TRT. Using UGL too.

I do 250 test e PW. x2 split injections for stable bloods always.

It's been okay, but I will tell u, if that vial is under dosed. U are going to be one unhappy guy. I know..trust me :(


PS: it's a good thing I opted to run 250 PW over 125. Or my levels would have been SO LOW. So I always cruise on 250 from now on. Eventually if I do real trt, i'll go for the usual routine.
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250 mg per week..what is ur test level bro?
 
Wouldn't say that is a.trt dose.at 250mg/week
On 200mg/week the lab I am running I was running in the high 1500 range
Which when I got.my.bloods done it atleast showed me.my stuff was Def legit lol
My doc.doesn't really give.to shit he.knows I do steroids but obviously isn't happy with me.doing them I do get the spew and lecture but again as he stated people cannon harp.on u as much as they want it's your.life and u are a grown man to.make your own decisions, just hope u make the proper.one bro, as u will be sticking the rest of your.lift.like.myself
Here in canada it's obviously abit dif then states laws as well
No insurance or any of that we have to worry about so bloods don't cost me nothing :)
Vials of t are cheap, it's the.medical.exspenses if living in the states becomes costly, good thing for canada haha
 
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Matt0071 said:
Wouldn't say that is a.trt dose.at 250mg/week
On 200mg/week the lab I am running I was running in the high 1500 range
Which when I got.my.bloods done it atleast showed me.my stuff was Def legit lol
My doc.doesn't really give.to shit he.knows I do steroids but obviously isn't happy with me.doing them I do get the spew and lecture but again as he stated people cannon harp.on u as much as they want it's your.life and u are a grown man to.make your own decisions, just hope u make the proper.one bro, as u will be sticking the rest of your.lift.like.myself
Here in canada it's obviously abit dif then states laws as well
No insurance or any of that we have to worry about so bloods don't cost me nothing :)
Vials of t are cheap, it's the.medical.exspenses if living in the states becomes costly, good thing for canada haha
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difference between Canada and the free market health care.. in Canada the blood test and doctor visit is not free,, it just so happens that your neighbor pays for it for you (he does so unwilling of course through immoral taxation). In the free market however , grown ass men pay for the own damn blood tests and doctor visits (not relying on the robbing of his neighbor to pay for it)

off topic, but my morning two cent rant.

I respect the guy that goes 'UGL free market" and pays for his own damn TRT and takes his own health in his own hands and initiative. so go for it OP
 
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Matt0071 said:
Wouldn't say that is a.trt dose.at 250mg/week
On 200mg/week the lab I am running I was running in the high 1500 range
Which when I got.my.bloods done it atleast showed me.my stuff was Def legit lol
My doc.doesn't really give.to shit he.knows I do steroids but obviously isn't happy with me.doing them I do get the spew and lecture but again as he stated people cannon harp.on u as much as they want it's your.life and u are a grown man to.make your own decisions, just hope u make the proper.one bro, as u will be sticking the rest of your.lift.like.myself
Here in canada it's obviously abit dif then states laws as well
No insurance or any of that we have to worry about so bloods don't cost me nothing :)
Vials of t are cheap, it's the.medical.exspenses if living in the states becomes costly, good thing for canada haha
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Perhaps you are sensitive, or your gear is dosed higher.
1500 at 200mg/wk is quite high bro. That is not standard.

Considering average users of 500mg/wk see 2k's.

Results will vary individual to individual, with some very sensitive or very resilient outliers. This is why we can't always blame the lab..
 
UGL is all I have used for the most part. As long as your supply is legit you are okay. Problem is that many are not. Bloods will answer that question for you.
 
I have another question guys..

as far as keeping estrogen levels down? because i'm going to be starting an actual cycle soon. What products should I get? I know I have no need for PCT but what would you recommend to keep estrogen down? And how much of it??

Also when i'm off cycle and at lower doses do you think I will have any problems with estrogen? Or mainly just during a cycle at 500mg/week?
 
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