questions about primobolan depot

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

im really interested in this steroids because i already got a good damn size on me and want to get big just not you know to big im 230 right now im natural for now anyway im doing a very extreme cutting diet and good workout program for 32 weeks and try to be as lean as 4 to 8 percent after the 32 weeks of dieting and working my butt off before i try steroids anywho im at 25 percent bodyfat so i got awhile but i got about 180 pounds that is muscle so after the 32 weeks of all my cutting down im going to be 200 pounds try to gain some muscle while i cut so ehen i do take steroids i dont want to take 1 that will just add water i will get to my question after i have finished doing my cutting down how much would any of you recommend me taking of primobolan depot for my first cyle im pretty sure im going to just do primobolan depot cyle only first then maybe next cyle add anavar but how much would you recommend me taking of primobolan depot for my first cyle and how long should i take it and what should i take to

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

make sure it don't shut my testostrone down taking primobolan depot alone because im not going to take any serious steroids like any that add water but yeah what would be a good 1 to take while on the primobolan depot to make sure that my testostrone don't shut down and i know what to do for post cycle therapy (pct) it would be Nolvadex 40 mg for 2 weeks with Clomid 50 mg for 2 weeks then 2 weeks of Nolvadex 20 mg for 2 weeks with Clomid 50 mg for 2 weeks then rest till next cyle but how long after my last Primobolan depot shot should i start my post cycle therapy (pct) and how often should i inject it a week thanks!

 

[UserAt204]

You have a lot to learn and need to go to the beginner form and read the threads. All AAS shut you down, ALL OF THEM. You are fat as hell so at 230 I wouldn't consider it good size at 230lbs, and to say you will naturally cut to 200 and be 6-8% which is where a pro is at on stage is an imaginary thought, try maybe 175 or so is where you will likely be.

That's an unrealistic goal, if you were so dialed with training and diet I doubt you would be 25% which is likely a guess so you could be 30% do you can't just pick a number and say if I have x amount of fat then I must have y amount of muscle.

Primo and var are both bad cycles. They both shut you down, that's what AAS do, you need test, it doesn't just add water to you. Diet, water intake, training, etc determine type of gaines, AAS can all be used for cut or bulk, but some work better than others.

1st cycle, Test E 500mg a week, split in. Two injects. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand, and post cycle therapy (pct) ready before you start. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is always good. With high bf comes high aromatase enzymes, meaning more estro conversion. You need to lose some bf, then consider AAS. If you think I'm wrong because you read a drug profile somewhere then go for it, and enjoy a limp dick with virtually no gains. Primo is decent with test at about 800-1000mg a week for 20+ weeks, var is great especially when you have a pretty decent bf and size.

Read the stickies at the top of the forum. Go to beginner forum, articles, and diet forum and rethink what you thought you knew, then set a goal, but a realistic one, and work toward it. Many guys cut on test or test+combo to maintain muscle while cutting, you might want to see what you can do on your own first while learning. There are many have tried to do var only or primo only, until they have a limp dick, so you are either in or out, but you need to reevaluate your entire approach.

Time for some reading, any drug profiles.

 

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[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

okay well i was just estimating what bf percent i want to get to and im 100 percent sure im 25 percent bf i know you were goinh to say thst fine after i finish my cutting naturaley i will just do a test cyle i was jw about Primo my bad

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

That's a pretty high bf bro. I will tell you that the only 2 AAS that I believe SUPRESS but don't shutdown are anavar and primo. Down side to primo is that it's extremely expensive and hard to come by legit primo. The drawback on var is it can't be ran super long due to it being an oral. Not advising you to run either, just some info though. If I were you, I'd make realistic goals. Going from 25% bf to 4% is just plain unrealistic. You'll maybe be 160 once all the fat is gone. When your cutting you will lose some muscle(not a lot if diets on point).

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

yes my diet is very clean protein is only from tuna and chicken no spices or sugar or any milk on diet and no cheat meals at all and darbs are low at 172 grams a day with eatinh oatmeal or white rice and taking a tablespoon of canaoial oil with each meal in my glass of water small glass of water for when drinking the canaoial oil with my water and lifting weights 3 times a week heavy for 10 weeks and high reps for 6 weeks then repeat 1 more time through will be 32 weeks and doing fast jogs for like 1 min then walk for like 30 seconds repeat that 23 to 35 timed doing that on my days off from working out so i do that 3 to 4 days a week in the morning before i eat my furst meal oh and only have protein shake with water, whey, oatmeal only after lifting weights ahd then taking 1000 mg of fish oil with each meal 6 meals a day and 50 mg of zinc at noon think im good to loose fat if i follow it 32 weeks think i could get low bf %?

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

damn well if im 160 when i get to 4 % bf then i can just do test after i get down to 4 % bf and eat very very clean and gain lean pure muscle trying not to gain any water

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

you said Primo don't shut you down then wtf why was the other guy telling me it does he must not know as much as you do would i gain good dlow gains with Primo alone after im done cutting naturaley?

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

meant to say slow good gains

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

It's going to SUPRESS. You will have limp dick tho which is why test is recommended with it. Like I said, I'm not advising using those compounds without test as you'll get much better results and sex drive on test along with it, just telling you how those compounds work. Test only is a preferable 1st cycle.

 

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

well im fine with limp dick it's good because i tend to be to horny in front of the ladies but it would go away after awhile say a month or so?

 

[bfish]

Userat204 could you PM me?

 

[RocktheRack]

Lmao

 

[RocktheRack]

Post your diet. Tuna nd chicken only does not make sense to me. You can lean out faster on all fish, but I wouldnt advise that to a man. Start by crawling I.e. add l carnitine, b6 and 12, CLA, cardio 45-1hr twice a day. Or if you are deadest on using something start with a peptide...something easier on your body. If you have a fresh system you don't want to throw the big boys out right away.... You don't start the openning drive of an NFL game with a hail Mary... User is spot on with the shut down. All this stuff is great, but do research and also individualize it to yourself. I.E if your take prescriptions, or have medical condition, that can play a factor bc everything your use signals brain regulation. We don't think of that side of it much, but it is important and can help avoid symptoms like insomnia, neuropathy, depression during bridges or off cycle, etc.
Also Anavar (var) is not friendly for your liver, you need to add Amiloride prescription.... Listen to User204- he is a source of very valuable, reliable info.