Rate this routine/cycle guys....tell me what you think. THANKS!!

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

Ok guys tell me what you think, I have it figured out and want to start monday. I am 6 foot, 208 pounds, and 27 years old. This would be my third cycle and I want to get it right

Deca/Sus Cycle:

Deca-500mg a week for 10 weeks (400 mg the first two weeks)
Sust-750mg a week for 12 weeks (500mg the first two weeks)

Take the shots on mondays and Thursdays, when I wake up. I'll take them in the delts and quads.

Nolvadex 20mg EOD all 12 weeks

PCT- Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) immediately afterwards, armidex immediately afterwards, dermacrine sustain starting week 11, and then 3 weeks of clomid 20 days after end of cycle.

Exercise Routine- One hour in the gym every other day, abs twice a week.
Day 1- Chest, Day 2- Off, Day 3- Back, Day 4- Off, Day 5- Shoulders Day 6- Off, Day 7- Arms, Day 8- Off, Day 9- Legs OR 4 days on and 3 days off.

Hopefully get 8 hours of sleep a day....at least that hopefully.

Diet-
4000 calories a day.
Protien- 350 grams/ 1540 calories
Fats- 72 grams/720 calories
Complex carbs- 435 grams/1740 calories

Supplements-
I will take two protien shakes a day one before the gym and one afterwards. Optimum whey before and then Muscle Milk mixed with Dried egg white protien powder afterwards. (<---sounds freaky might change it up)

Muscletech's Aplodan
Banner Amino Acid

Vitamins-
GNC Vitapak
Fish Oil
Milk Thistle
Flax seed Oil


Also do you guys think it is stupid to take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during week 3, 6 and 9 also, to keep some life in my balls?

 

[motawa]

The first 2 weeks should be high dosed, rather than the last 2.

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

The first 2 weeks should be high dosed, rather than the last 2.

Thandk for responding man I really appreciate it. I'll just keep at 750 per week and then make the last two 500mg. I wouldn't be too comfortable sticking 1000mg the first two weeks.

 

[blackjack]

Thandk for responding man I really appreciate it. I'll just keep at 750 per week and then make the last two 500mg. I wouldn't be too comfortable sticking 1000mg the first two weeks.

I agree dont taper in the beginning start at 750. I also have 2 more points if you dont mind.
1. dont use the nolvadex during the cycle unless you have gyno symptoms. save it for post cycle therapy (pct).
2. Dont wait untill post cycle to use the HCG. start it from the 2nd week and use it every week at ~500iu. 250 2x per week. this will make your post cycle therapy (pct) much easier.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Did you know that using Nolvadex while on Deca can actually aggrevate gyno symptoms ??? You definitely may want to reconsider this.

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

I agree dont taper in the beginning start at 750. I also have 2 more points if you dont mind.
1. dont use the nolvadex during the cycle unless you have gyno symptoms. save it for post cycle therapy (pct).
2. Dont wait untill post cycle to use the HCG. start it from the 2nd week and use it every week at ~500iu. 250 2x per week. this will make your post cycle therapy (pct) much easier.

Awesome....thanks for the help. I guess I wrote that about the Nolva without thinking, my last cycle had dbol in it which is why I was using it.

I will probably run tamoxifen EOD if I have any issues...

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

Did you know that using Nolvadex while on Deca can actually aggrevate gyno symptoms ??? You definitely may want to reconsider this.

Thanks Admin....Yea I had a brain fart when I typed it...

 

[blackjack]

Awesome....thanks for the help. I guess I wrote that about the Nolva without thinking, my last cycle had dbol in it which is why I was using it.

I will probably run tamoxifen EOD if I have any issues...

tamoxifen is nolvadex.

 

[soonbebig]

Apart from the nolva bit no matter what !!! you and i both know u gonna grow lol

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

tamoxifen is nolvadex.

right I know...I was saying I will use it if I have any gyno issues or I will stay away from it.

Thanks man.

 

[blackjack]

right I know...I was saying I will use it if I have any gyno issues or I will stay away from it.

Thanks man.

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