Ready to go big (cycle critique)

[Mandog]

I am 27 6ft1", 250lbs 20%BF. I have done 5 cycles and have experience with the following (dbol, EQ, deca,Prop, Test-E, anavar) Last cycle my Test dose started at 600mg per week an I upped it to 700mg by the end of the cycle. I think I may have jumped the gun on dose amount. My diet is in check and I have been training for a solid 3 years straight.

People always say drop the BF first. I always do while on cycle as I eat very clean. My first cycle I was at 24% and I went against what everyone said and rand a test cycle. I got to 19% BF while gaining 18LBs. So pay no attention to my BF, I take my diet serious when on cycle.

This is what I want to run:

Week 1-4 Anadrol 50mg,75mg,100mg,100mg
Week 1-12 Test-E 300mg x2 per week
Week 3-12 Tren-E 200mg x2 per week
Week 8-12 Oral winstrol tabs 50mg per day
Week 1-12 HCG 500ius per week

PCT I have clomids and Nolva was thinking about hitting a combo.

I have Arimidex on hand and cabor also.

I want your feedback, advice, sugestions etc. I also wanted to know if there was something I can take that is helps the joints out like deca does. I know it not good to run tren and deca together.

Thanks.

 

[Mandog]

Bump...

 

[DADAWG]

not a fan of winnie period .
i dont reccomend running drol and tren together , to much chance of prolactin / progesterone issues.



welcome to ology

 

[Polynikes666]

I don't care for orals...

Overly complicated for my tastes, but there's nothing glaringly wrong with it. I think the following would accomplish many of the same objectives, but would be cheaper, and the sides would be easier to mitigate.

Test E 600mg/wk for 12wks
Test P 200mg/wk for 14wks
EQ 600mg/wk for 11-12wks
Aromasin as an AI
PCT

Obviously, people respond differently to various compounds.

Poly

 

[Mandog]

not a fan of winnie period .
i dont reccomend running drol and tren together , to much chance of prolactin / progesterone issues.
welcome to ology

What if I run arimidex and cabor both at .25 mg per day. Could I also run the winni longer like the last 6 weeks as it prevents prolactin?

Can anyone else advise me of these preventitive measures?

 

[Mandog]

Overly complicated for my tastes, but there's nothing glaringly wrong with it. I think the following would accomplish many of the same objectives, but would be cheaper, and the sides would be easier to mitigate.

Test E 600mg/wk for 12wks
Test P 200mg/wk for 14wks
EQ 600mg/wk for 11-12wks
Aromasin as an AI
PCT

Obviously, people respond differently to various compounds.

Poly

Are you against Tren? EQ seems to mild to me. It more then anything gave me stanima. My result wernt much if none different between Test-E at 500mg per week and Test-E at 500mg per week/ EQ at 500 per week. My gear is always GP and from a good source.

I dont understand why you say complicated, I know its expensive but other then money how would the gains be?

 

[Mandog]

Bump... Any other words on this?

 

[DADAWG]

Bump... Any other words on this?

prolactin/ progesteron is trickier to control than estrogen IMO . i do not reccomend running tren and drol
why not run either test / tren /either tbol/dbol/var

or

test / eq / drol


another good option would be test/tren/eq

winnie is overrated . low lean mass gains , murders cholesterol , kills joints , etc.

 

[Mandog]

prolactin/ progesteron is trickier to control than estrogen IMO . i do not reccomend running tren and drol
why not run either test / tren /either tbol/dbol/var

or

test / eq / drol


another good option would be test/tren/eq

winnie is overrated . low lean mass gains , murders cholesterol , kills joints , etc.

Ok, I really want to kickstart this cycle. what if I did:

Week 1-4 Tbol 50mg per day
week 1-12 Test-E 600 per week
week 1-12 Tren 400 mg per week
week 1-12 EQ 600mg per week.

I wasnt aware that anadrol produced prolactin. I didnt care much for EQ but was told by alot of people that you only see results at 600mg. What do you think about this, is this to much as far as dosage goes? And if you know of a lean mass (mass most importantly) layout that would yeild better gains let me know and I will take your advice.

Thanks for your help this far Dawg.

 

[glubgawd]

Ok, I really want to kickstart this cycle. what if I did:

Week 1-4 Tbol 50mg per day
week 1-12 Test-E 600 per week
week 1-12 Tren 400 mg per week
week 1-12 EQ 600mg per week.

I wasnt aware that anadrol produced prolactin. I didnt care much for EQ but was told by alot of people that you only see results at 600mg. What do you think about this, is this to much as far as dosage goes? And if you know of a lean mass (mass most importantly) layout that would yeild better gains let me know and I will take your advice.

Thanks for your help this far Dawg.

Personally, I'm confused as to why you think you need so many different compounds AND so much of each?

I'm 350lbs and I rarely run 4 compounds or 1.5g+ of injects. Why is it that you feel you need more steroids than I do in order to get gains?

I honestly think you'd be best off at just running:

Test E 500-600mg EW
Tren E 300-400mg EW
Tbol kickstart

Or, if you want something to make your joints feel happy, why not just run test+deca?

 

[DADAWG]

Personally, I'm confused as to why you think you need so many different compounds AND so much of each?

I'm 350lbs and I rarely run 4 compounds or 1.5g+ of injects. Why is it that you feel you need more steroids than I do in order to get gains?

I honestly think you'd be best off at just running:

Test E 500-600mg EW
Tren E 300-400mg EW
Tbol kickstart

Or, if you want something to make your joints feel happy, why not just run test+deca?

solid advice IMO.

 

[Mandog]

Personally, I'm confused as to why you think you need so many different compounds AND so much of each?

I'm 350lbs and I rarely run 4 compounds or 1.5g+ of injects. Why is it that you feel you need more steroids than I do in order to get gains?

I honestly think you'd be best off at just running:

Test E 500-600mg EW
Tren E 300-400mg EW
Tbol kickstart

Or, if you want something to make your joints feel happy, why not just run test+deca?

I understand what your saying. A part of me felt like it was on the high side. I just feel like everytime I do a cycle I try and play it to safe. I then always wonder if I should of done thing different to maximize gains. I think Im going to stick with what you said.

Tbol
Test-E
Tren

Thanks guys