Red Dragon, 5 wks NO GAIN. fake?

my thing is that he has done previous cycles before with much better results, that being said he probally hasnt changed to much with his weak eating habits and training, seems like he knows the basics by his post im saying he would know if he has that same feeling that hes had previous cycles ya know,o and hopefully he pct's. Just underdosed crap is all i can see here.
 
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whatever you guys are missing the point here-im not saying its good or bad-just dont think we should make a determination with these results-unless we had others speaking out saying they have same issue.

1 muscle a day 4 days a week-is weak in my eyes-when on the sauce

so is 3 meals a day with a shake

so is anything under 500mg of test-and honestly 750 is the magic number

this is just another example of how skewed the view on AAS is-and how everyone thinks if they got good shit they should put on 20lbs. its fucking silly to me to take steroids and not bust your ass to the max-i mean thats the whole point right? i mean even the announcers on ESPN know this-they have stated over and over that steroids allowed Mark Mcguire to work out more and harder than ever. no one ever said they grew the muscle for him cause they dont. and if they do-you will be sad when your run is over cause its all water that your seeing.

people need to stop fucking around-and do everything possible to have a good cycle-then and only then when they dont-they should bitch about the gear.

Boss-step up your game and stop fucking around
 
well i always have to agree because i bust my ass well 5 days a week, 750 mgs is a nice dose for SOME, depends on what you can handle and how your body reacts and non the less you GENES play a big role in this. i see people blow the fuck up on 500mgs a week, i wouldnt go less than that though. i like 1000mgs a week that seems to work best for me. I do agree with ya though bro, to quick on the assuptions here but i know someone who has tried this sesame oil..lol..pure crap, this guy like i stated about is eating like a 10 month baby, and working out as much as my wife as she workout at home so STEP IT UP HOMIE!!!
 
I agree with oak! He needs to eat more and train hard! Or your just blowing money away. So to assume it fake its hard to tell. Put in the work it wont work by itself. Good luck bro!
 
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whatever you guys are missing the point here-im not saying its good or bad-just dont think we should make a determination with these results-unless we had others speaking out saying they have same issue.

1 muscle a day 4 days a week-is weak in my eyes-when on the sauce

so is 3 meals a day with a shake

so is anything under 500mg of test-and honestly 750 is the magic number

this is just another example of how skewed the view on AAS is-and how everyone thinks if they got good shit they should put on 20lbs. its fucking silly to me to take steroids and not bust your ass to the max-i mean thats the whole point right? i mean even the announcers on ESPN know this-they have stated over and over that steroids allowed Mark Mcguire to work out more and harder than ever. no one ever said they grew the muscle for him cause they dont. and if they do-you will be sad when your run is over cause its all water that your seeing.

people need to stop fucking around-and do everything possible to have a good cycle-then and only then when they dont-they should bitch about the gear.

Boss-step up your game and stop fucking around

Id give ya reps but i have to spread some around.
Thats solid advice
 
Alright so train harder and eat more. Not a problem. About my question of injecting twice weekly or every other day? Up to 750 mg? Thanks for the help. Also If I am in the gym 5 days a week what would you suggest so that I hit each group more than once a week? stay longer? Or should I drop the reps/sets/excerszes with heavier weight in order to have more time to hit multiple groups on each day? Thanks again.
 
i wanna know if your sex drive has increased since youve been on the test-i also wanna know how long you have been on.
 
I m with you drew and oak..I ve been reading this but not posting....
Yeah dude..lift more weight, compound movements rule, eat more food lot s more,..roids ain t majic. oak has swollen like an...OAK..with careful adherence to the basic movements, high calories, rest....then roid s come into play..
What s up with your love tool dude???
 
three meals a day? Way to many hours between meals!!! Hey Oak was always told anything over 600mg will increase sides without increasing positive outcome. Is that only true if your new to test?
 
i dont know bro-for the first cycle supposedly you dont need more then 600mg-i just feel better on 750mg-and i dont get any more sides on 750 then 500-higher than 750 adn its a different story
 
i'm 4 weeks in on my test 650mg week cycle and my diet could be better to. I have gained so far a solid 12lbs of muscle with no fat. INfact, my shit burns fat as crazy as it sounds.
 
I agree with oak! He needs to eat more and train hard! Or your just blowing money away. So to assume it fake its hard to tell. Put in the work it wont work by itself. Good luck bro!

If you are eating like a monster and training like a maniac and have some conditioning behind you, when real shit hits you (even say just 300mg of test a week) you f-ing blow up! You KNOW. If you don't know, chuck it, because who knows what you are putting in your body. Maybe it is grape-seed oil with some HIV put in there!:thumbsdow
 
I had the same gear and wasn't seeing results either went back to the same guy i got it from and he gave me some different stuff and could tell within two weeks it was better stuff! I just think its highly underdosed not fake. My guy is legit and he don't mess with fake stuff.
 
Yeah thats the second post that said they have seen this first hand. Both said it is really underdosed. regaurdless of only eating three meals a day I should be up at least five.Not getting hard in the pants all the time like previous cycles nor am I breaking out on my back like i have before. Ha im on week seven. So my question is if it is underdosed should I up my mg per week and see if I gain or should I call it a loss and trash it? I still have a couple bottles left. Thanks again.
 
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trash it-now that you have finally answered the hard in the pants question-if you would have started this thread with your most recent post it would have been a lot easier to say it was shit
 
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