Refractory Period while on TRT

[Cosmoen]

I've noticed that my semen volume has decreased and that my refractory period after sex is longer. I have been on TRT for two years. If I ejaculate daily for multiple days in a row, this seems to put a strain on my balls. The semen volume gets less and less and there is a very slight numbness feeling to the testicles.

I have been using HCG 350iu E3D as part of my TRT protocol.

Has anybody experienced this before on TRT? How has your refractory period, ejaculation frequency, and semen volume changed while on TRT?

 

[Megatron28]

Two things.

1) Your testicles shrink on TRT if you don't use HCG.

2)And check your Prolactin for your refractory period. Or could it just be that you are having more sex on TRT and need more time to recover?

 

[Cosmoen]

Forgot to mention that I have been using HCG 350iu E3D during TRT

I recall prior to TRT that once a day ejaculation wasn't a problem but now I get the same feeling as if I had ejaculated multiple times a day with only daily ejaculations. I find this a bit troublesome. Also, I dont have as much of an "urge" to ejaculate as I used to.

Two things.

1) Your testicles shrink on TRT if you don't use HCG.

2)And check your Prolactin for your refractory period. Or could it just be that you are having more sex on TRT and need more time to recover?

 

[Alpin]

You don't have much of an urge cause Exogenous Test is not the same as endogenous production. You are not making much sperm. I find T levels and libido are over rated there are other factors involved in healthy libido as well.
I could be at 400-500 ng/dl with HCG MONO and have a better libido than being at 1000 ng/dl and only on T.

 

[300winmag]

I also think you have to look other factors than just trt and HCG usage. Are there other drugs prescribed or recreational that you are using, are you in shape, whats your diet, alcohol intake etc. All of these things can affect your refractory period.

Also there is age, I can tell you my refractory period isn't the same at 30 that it was at 21, things change. I also go in spurts where I could knock it out 3 days in a row, then not really do it for a few days. Realistically as you age I don't think you can logically think that what you did yesterday you can do. Plus all guys are different. some guys can do it 2-3 times a day no problem, some even one after another.

 

[halfwit]

Two things.

1) Your testicles shrink on TRT if you don't use HCG.

2)And check your Prolactin for your refractory period. Or could it just be that you are having more sex on TRT and need more time to recover?

Seconded on this likely being caused by something else. Food for thought: if you're secondary and your doc never finds the root cause for hypogonadism, the pituitary could easily be pooping out prolactin in excess - messing with refractory period/mood/firmness/etc.

Apollon, not sure what you're talking about buddy, but there's a world of a difference between those two values of testosterone, with or without HCG.

Oh, and and no - the only time I have issues with my refractory period is if I'm having sex more than 6-7 times a day or I'm on a 19-nor testosterone derivative.

My .02c

 

[Cosmoen]

Seconded on this likely being caused by something else. Food for thought: if you're secondary and your doc never finds the root cause for hypogonadism, the pituitary could easily be pooping out prolactin in excess - messing with refractory period/mood/firmness/etc.

Apollon, not sure what you're talking about buddy, but there's a world of a difference between those two values of testosterone, with or without HCG.

Oh, and and no - the only time I have issues with my refractory period is if I'm having sex more than 6-7 times a day or I'm on a 19-nor testosterone derivative.

My .02c

Why would somebody who was secondary before trt have excess proactive while on TRT? How are the two related?

 

[Megatron28]

Why would somebody who was secondary before trt have excess proactive while on TRT? How are the two related?

Did you check your Prolactin prior to going on TRT? If so, what was it at?

Things can change with time. High Prolactin could cause the ymptoms you are describing which is why we are suggesting that you check it now.

 

[ezed413]

Seconded on this likely being caused by something else. Food for thought: if you're secondary and your doc never finds the root cause for hypogonadism, the pituitary could easily be pooping out prolactin in excess - messing with refractory period/mood/firmness/etc.

Apollon, not sure what you're talking about buddy, but there's a world of a difference between those two values of testosterone, with or without HCG.

Oh, and and no - the only time I have issues with my refractory period is if I'm having sex more than 6-7 times a day or I'm on a 19-nor testosterone derivative.

My .02c

I'm secondary myself. I don't know what the root cause is. I suspect I have a prolactin issue. My libido has just not been there for a few months. I'm having prolactin checked this Monday. My refractory period has been extremely long as well.

 

[halfwit]

Why would somebody who was secondary before trt have excess proactive while on TRT? How are the two related?

Prolactin can suppress endogenous testosterone production. It's a fairly common disorder of the pituitary gland, which can go undiagnosed if the doctor just shoves testosterone in your face without actually investigating the root cause of why you're hypogonadal.

Untreated pituitary issues don't just go away because you're injecting exogenous hormones.

 

[halfwit]

I'm secondary myself. I don't know what the root cause is. I suspect I have a prolactin issue. My libido has just not been there for a few months. I'm having prolactin checked this Monday. My refractory period has been extremely long as well.

Libido itself is usually an estradiol problem (either too high or too low) in my experience. Prolactin is always a good one to keep tabs on though.

 

[Alpin]

Lol.....one thing I am well aware of is you can expect quite the defense for supraphysiological T levels on here. Even when they are not warranted/justfied for day to day function. Lol
Don't be messing with my 1200 ng/dl T level now...
Lol

 

[halfwit]

Lol.....one thing I am well aware of is you can expect quite the defense for supraphysiological T levels on here. Even when they are not warranted/justfied for day to day function. Lol
Don't be messing with my 1200 ng/dl T level now...
Lol

Yes, I'm completely defensive when it comes to my DOCTOR MONITORED total testosterone values of 900-1056ng/dL. There hasn't been any implication of cycling or supraphysiological levels of testosterone whatsoever in this thread.

Come on now Apollon, you know we don't discuss that stuff in the TRT forum.

 

[Alpin]

Take it easy....lol
1200 + TT is trendy.....

 

[halfwit]

Take it easy....lol
1200 + TT is trendy.....

As long as the doctor is okay with that, more power to them. Pushing supraphysiological levels brings a lot of complications into the picture, which is kind of the opposite of what folks on TRT are trying to achieve.

Not sure I'd call it trendy.

 

[ezed413]

As long as the doctor is okay with that, more power to them. Pushing supraphysiological levels brings a lot of complications into the picture, which is kind of the opposite of what folks on TRT are trying to achieve.

Not sure I'd call it trendy.

Like what kind of complications?

 

[Mprtz]

Like what kind of complications?

Climbing hct, dropping hdl, crashing shbg leading to runaway free T, possibly causing gyno even though E2 is low. Rising IGF1 possibly increasing cancer risk, etc.

 

[ezed413]

Climbing hct, dropping hdl, crashing shbg leading to runaway free T, possibly causing gyno even though E2 is low. Rising IGF1 possibly increasing cancer risk, etc.

Thanks. Is 1000 considered supra physiological? That was on 4 pumps of 1.62 androgel.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks. Is 1000 considered supra physiological? That was on 4 pumps of 1.62 androgel.

1000 is in the normal range for many labs but not all.

 

[Cosmoen]

The only thing that helps was when I was taking HCG at 500iu e3D which seems to increase semen volume and shorten refractory period. However, it was causing too much e2 conversion. My current hcg is at 300iu e3D