Results and questions TRT since 2012

[pmd]

Doctor put me on TRT back in 2012.

The good:
Recover quicker from work outs
increased muscle mass

The bad:
muscle mass increase not as much as expected. Arms went from 15 to 16.5
1RM have not changed significantly compared to before TRT
I don't have a lot of drive. Guess it could be my personality?

Stats:
45yo, 5'8, 185 hovering around 15% BF

Regimen:
400mg cypionate e10d
Arimidex 1ed
At a trough my blood test results indicate 600 testosterone and 69 estrogen.

Macros (cutting diet):
250 Protein
50 Carbs
70 Fat


I have been training on and off for 30 years. In the last three years since starting TRT I train consistently with appropriate breaks. My goal is to end up 7-8%BF with at least 17 inch arms.

Any thoughts ideas are welcome

 

[Megatron28]

You should be pinning more frequently. A lot of us pin every 3.5 days. This helps keep levels more even and helps reduce the amount of AI you need.

Did you check estradiol? Checking total estrogen doesn't tell you very much.

If you really have those goals it will be hard to accomplish on TRT. Have you considered running a blast?

Also, are you really taking 1mg of Arimidex daily?

 

[pmd]

I asked my doctor upon recommendations here about splitting my dose every five days and he got mad and told me that if I did so he wouldn't treat me any longer.

I have considered running a blast and yes I am on 1mg of Adex daily.

Other than the fatigue I felt and small increased muscularity/reduced body fat TRT doesn't seem to have done much for me.
Previously I had tested at 475 testosterone and 250 on another occasion.

I do have to watch my hematocrit and donate blood to adjust. To be honest I have contemplated going off if possible. Perhaps my expectation was too much of TRT.
In my prime 16 to 16.5 inch arms and around 10 percent body fat where easily achievable naturally. My best bench was 315 then. Now I struggle with 245 for a couple of reps. I thought that I should be above that with TRT. Specially at 400 mg e10d.

I have an appt with my doctor in a couple of weeks and will ask about my estadriol. Maybe thats the key.

 

[Roush]

I asked my doctor upon recommendations here about splitting my dose every five days and he got mad and told me that if I did so he wouldn't treat me any longer.

Fyi - your doctor WORKS FOR YOU. you hired HIM, not the other way around. Fire him and hire another.

 

[Megatron28]

I asked my doctor upon recommendations here about splitting my dose every five days and he got mad and told me that if I did so he wouldn't treat me any longer.

I have considered running a blast and yes I am on 1mg of Adex daily.

Other than the fatigue I felt and small increased muscularity/reduced body fat TRT doesn't seem to have done much for me.
Previously I had tested at 475 testosterone and 250 on another occasion.

I do have to watch my hematocrit and donate blood to adjust. To be honest I have contemplated going off if possible. Perhaps my expectation was too much of TRT.
In my prime 16 to 16.5 inch arms and around 10 percent body fat where easily achievable naturally. My best bench was 315 then. Now I struggle with 245 for a couple of reps. I thought that I should be above that with TRT. Specially at 400 mg e10d.

I have an appt with my doctor in a couple of weeks and will ask about my estadriol. Maybe thats the key.

You need a new doctor. He doesn't understand Half Lives.

But if you are self-injecting, he won't know how often you pin unless you choose to tell him.

 

[pmd]

Megatron: If I pin e5d for more stable levels and I go back to doctor on a trough then my levels would have been the same as my last results?

If so I am due a shot today. I am sure this will lower any E spike I am experiencing and possibly raising my estradiol.

 

[Megatron28]

Megatron: If I pin e5d for more stable levels and I go back to doctor on a trough then my levels would have been the same as my last results?

If so I am due a shot today. I am sure this will lower any E spike I am experiencing and possibly raising my estradiol.

Pinning more frequently will reduce your TT range. So your peak will be lower and your through will be higher. The range will tighten. This results in fewer problems with estradiol.

 

[cybrsage]

What Mega said. You will feel better on a regular basis, too.

 

[halfwit]

I bet pinning E3.5D and dropping your adex down to 0.5mg a WEEK will give you a true idea what TRT is all about. 69pg/ml of ESTROGEN... Oiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Just downgrade your doc to script monkey status for the refills and stick around here. The joker clearly has no business treating hormones whatsoever.

 

[IMT staff]

If your really taking 1mg per day of adex thats why your not making gains. You need estrogen. The debate has went on for years as to whether AI's inhibit muscle building.

If you can't find a good doctor give us a call and we will get you squared away.