Ronnie coleman' steroid cycle.

what vids are you watchin???
he claimed to "TRY" steroids "ONCE" only to see how it can make him stronger, it was test-C & tren acetate
but anyway he's knowledge is pretty smart when it comes 2bodybuilding, its actual science and anatomy

Just watch his beginning vids - the guy looks like an NFL quarterback, but with 7% BF. He can't claim the "natty title", but the guy is drug free at the moment if that's what you're wondering.
 
Elliot Hulse does strongman competions, i watch his youtube channel 4m time 2time "StrengthCamp" he's natty

Elliot hulse is not natty, he has a video admitting he has cycled in the past, i don't think his physique is that great for someone whose not natty but he's got some cool vidz.
 
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Elliot hulse is not natty, he has a video admitting he has cycled in the past, i don't think his physique is that great for someone whose not natty but he's got some cool vidz.

It sounds like you need to go watch the video again. He clearly said that he used them once in 2009. He's been natty for the past four years.
 
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i can tell you this with Elliot's strength mental and overall athletic ability and endurance... dude would beat the shit out of me to say the least, like thats hard to do...dudes a monster
 
How on earth can you even possibly think that this is his cycle? Maybe if you added more compounds and double or tripled total AAS dose, double the gh dose. 10 iu slin? REALLY? That's just insulting. Have you seen Ronnie? He was counting that shit in hundreds of IUs not by tens.
 
Hes sayin you dont just smoke crack once ... Once you start it becomes your life and you`ll sell everything you have. The bad analogy was on your end
 
Total BS. Ronnie used 36IU HGH per day and diminishing returns usually don't happen until 40IU's per day. And pro bb'ers use well over 100IU's of insulin daily these days, some up to 200IU's. Long-acting slin in the morning, 15-25IU's before each meal, 20-30IU's pre-workout and post-workout. Most of the good ones never eat without slin, as they feel it's pointless to do otherwise.

Don't forget the vast quantities of research peptides. Little research has been done on them, but pro bb'ers are drug addicts and are scared that others might be doing these things and gaining benefit from them. Gear use is 5g-10g per week typically. Orals in the 100-500mg range daily. Some get off orals occasionally, some don't. You should for liver health, but bb'ing has never been about health and never will be.

Also, rec drugs like narcotics, weed, and amphetamines are common to tolerate the abuse on the body. A lot of the bullshit cycles you see like this one might get you up to a relatively lean 220-230 assuming average height and good genetics, but you need to really pound down the doses if you ever expect to competing at 250+.

In the end, it's all genetics anyway. Many guys get tons of sides on 1g gear per week with nothing else added. Those guys simply aren't met for pro bb'ing. Most pros use 6g+ per week. 6g shouldn't be necessary but considering that most of these guys never come off, their receptors are always saturated and only get further growth by continually pounding down higher doses over the course of 10-20 years.
 
Anadrol is not as toxic as we've been led to believe. It's been studied at doses of 150mg to 200mg for 12 months.

Would you mind to PM this study? I would be very interested into looking at such a study. If not, no worries. I will google it ;)
 
their receptors are always saturated and only get further growth by continually pounding down higher doses over the course of 10-20 years.
If your receptors are saturated anything else on top is just a waste.
 
I just watched Marc Loblinder yesterday on YouTube and he made a claim that pros don't take as much as most people think. He claimed low level NPC competitors were taking more than IFBB pros (top contenders) and not all use insulin. Claimed first that genetics are the major contributor which I could agree with. As a successful businessman and trainer, I would consider him a more reputable source of information than the average user here. No offense to those who are also successful who would like to remain anonymous.

But with Marc, he claims that unless you plan on staying on for life, anabolics are not for you. He claims that gains made from anabolics are not possible to maintain and you will eventually come back to your "natural" state.

Is there a reputable person who could comment on the claims?
 
But with Marc, he claims that unless you plan on staying on for life, anabolics are not for you. He claims that gains made from anabolics are not possible to maintain and you will eventually come back to your "natural" state.
Truth, if you have gone beyond your genetic limitations.
Look at the guys who dont go over 200lbs, they all look pretty much the same size wise when they come off.
Its guys up at 250-300 who crash like Zeppelins.
 
Truth, if you have gone beyond your genetic limitations.
Look at the guys who dont go over 200lbs, they all look pretty much the same size wise when they come off.
Its guys up at 250-300 who crash like Zeppelins.

So, you claim that if I were to use anabolics to exceed 250 pounds it would be impossible to maintain that? Also, when I'm saying 250 pounds i'm thinking of relatively lean 250. Not 250 and 20% body fat.

How do you measure genetic limits? Who knows for sure? No one.
 
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