Sad, worried, down - need help

[Ak1983]

Hey guys, my first post here but i have been member for 17 months ish now.

I am so sad so down so worried and need advise.

Before i start just few things about me, I am 30 year old, i am from Australia, About two years ago i started my research on erectile dysfunction and trt, I am no expert in this, probobly far away from that therefore i need help from you guys.

I wanna tell the whole story but guess its too long so long story short few years ago i was a healthy man, sex was a pleasure and libido was high. Then 2 years ago i realized that i had the erectile dysfunction. i went to a doctor and he took it really lightly and reaised the possibility that this may be the mental issue. He gave me some Viagra and i took half of the tabet (50 mg) as advised and it worked, made me the happiest person in the world. But after 1 month i failed to have sex again with the viagra even (i wasn't using the pill every day, probobly twice a week). Then my doctor increased the dose to 100mg, worked but just for 3 more weeks then again same problem. Doctor gave me cialis, worked but only for 2 months, then he gave me levetra which worked for 1 moth then my stupid penis was down. I was going nuts, i was sad, i took my penis in my hand and screamed at it. The doctor also did my bloodwork at the start and said all was good. When these pills stopped working I requested him to please refer me to a specialist as i may have low test levels (i am not a doctor but i knew it was my test levels or estrongen level causing the issue), he denied and gave me prescriptions of all three pills with 5 tries each and adviced me to mix them up in a way that when one stops working start taking the other one. well it was a hell but i made a schdule and noted down takes for each pill and when they stop working, next 9, 10 months were like hell, i had no energy, my body Shape gone bad, well the whole year passed like success and failure in sex with these pills, mixing pills etc than 3 months ago it just stopped. Everything, nothing was working, even i didnt have sex for a month to increase my libido but even after a month there was still no sex, i was down.. Got desperate and took double viagra dose 200mg (nothing happened, not even a raising heartbeat).

I went back to doctor and heard that he is retired now so they put me to another doctor, he seems to be a little bit open minded but yeah wait for it. He gave me same prescription and i insisted that these pills are not working and i am not going to buy expensive pills when they are not working also my erectile dysfuction ED is getting wrose then he adviced blood test. After few days i got a call from hospital telling me that the doctor has seen the Results and everything is normal and advised to continue using prescribed tablets. well i said ok. Then after 2 weeks i recieved tests results at home address and it was written on it (in bold) "please check with your GP as your test results are not normal". i called the hospital again and they booked my appointment with the doctor again. I requested doctor that my ED is going worse please help me. Doctor said ok he can give me some testosterones just to check if it works and only for testing purposes. He said if this works then he will talk to an expert to see why it works. Now here is a tricky part, he gave me 250mg dose every 4 weeks. I tried to start conversation about the dose and off course some HCG and AI but he interupted and said no this one injection is just for testing. I said ok assuming that an argument here may piss him off and he might say "no trt" where TRT is my last hope now.

Ok so i got 250mg one injection, there is another funny part, the nurse injected the oil in my body and took the needle out so quick which caused big amout of oil just came out, so i believe i actually got 180mg or 200mg of total testosterone in my body, well i said no worries lets move on, This injection stopped my natural production (well doctor didnt tell me but i knew that so i wasnt surprised).

Week 1: no libido, no sex intrest, good mood (hopeful and happy)
Week 2: no libido, no sex intrest (mood down, desperate)
Week 3: libido comes and goes, little libido for 5 mins then no libido at all , little intrest in sex (mood down, bit angry, worried)
Week 4: will start from tuesday

i believe that in some men it takes about 6 weeks for test to kick-in properly although i am worried that on this low dose it wont make any difference. The recomended dose should be 100 to 120 every week and should not be 250mg every 4 weeks.

Now i booked my appointment with doctor on friday and here are my questions

What do you guys think about my situation?
Is 250mg every 4 weeks correct?
What should i do? should i just cry to doctor for correct dose and hcg?

Guys please be possitive in your answers as i am already in tension now and writing this at 2 oclock in a morning on sunday night

(I appologize for not posting my test results, i will post then as soon as i find that paper)

Kind Regards

 

[Megatron28]

You have been around here and reading enough to k ow the routine. Post up your blood work results. Without that we are all just guessing.

 

[3J]

Your doctor is an idiot taking you on a hormonal roller coaster ride...

here is what you really needed to do (we are past this because you already got trt)


Test the following

testosterone serum and free
e2 sensitive test
shbg
LH
FSH
DHT


now that he has you on 250mg once a month (which makes him just about the dumbest doctor i have ever heard of) those tests are worthless... with the exception of the Testosterone and Estrogen test

so what this idiot is doing to you is giving you a high dose of testosterone.. in about 30 days that test will be completely out of your system since ita about a 8-10 day half life..

so the peak value of the testosterone is causing a rise in estrogen.. the test lowers and your body produces more estrogen...

it becomes an e2 problem..

you need to find a way to start with a normal trt dosage.. 100mg a week is considered normal (and if you inject twice a week even better)

i myself am on 200mg a week with 500iu hcg and adex twice a week.. im dialed in.. i wake up with the hard on from hell..

so you might want to look into finding a doc who knows what he is doing

 

[3J]

You have been around here and reading enough to k ow the routine. Post up your blood work results. Without that we are all just guessing.

i feel bad for this guy bro.... seriously what kinda doc scripts 250mg once a month??

the only way you can do that is using something like sustanon.. and that was abandoned due to the imbalance in hormones

 

[Megatron28]

i feel bad for this guy bro.... seriously what kinda doc scripts 250mg once a month??

the only way you can do that is using something like sustanon.. and that was abandoned due to the imbalance in hormones

I feel bad too. Maybe I read his post wrong. I thought he only wanted to give him a one-time injection to see if it did anything. Stupid "treatment" but nonetheless.

I was hoping we could see copies of his old blood work prior to the injection.

 

[Ak1983]

3J Thank you so much for your reply, it means a lot to me. finding a doctor is a hard part in Australia, should say finding a right doctor for sexual sicknesses such as ED. i am not sure where to go. i am pretty sure the tests you advised were not included in my test prescribed by doctor. the other thing is i cant go and ask them to do a blood test as they require doctor's authority letter and doctor's approval. basically you cant do bloodwork at all without a doctor's written approval.

megatron What tests are we looking for, i guess it had suger level, cal, blood pressure etc.

i will find them today and will post asap

thanks guys

 

[Megatron28]

3J Thank you so much for your reply, it means a lot to me. finding a doctor is a hard part in Australia, should say finding a right doctor for sexual sicknesses such as ED. i am not sure where to go. i am pretty sure the tests you advised were not included in my test prescribed by doctor. the other thing is i cant go and ask them to do a blood test as they require doctor's authority letter and doctor's approval. basically you cant do bloodwork at all without a doctor's written approval.

megatron What tests are we looking for, i guess it had suger level, cal, blood pressure etc.

i will find them today and will post asap

thanks guys

Post what you have. Hopefully it includes hormone levels.

 

[Ak1983]

Just found my test results taken in febuary

ANDROGENS (serum)
Testosterone (10.0 - 25.0) nmol/L : 16.1
SHBG (10 to 50) nmol/L: 22
Calculated free testo. (225 - 725) pmol/L : 395
FAI (20.0 - 160.0): 73.2

i am turning 30 in next 3 months.


i forgot to tell one thing, 2 years ago if i masterbated i was still horny and was ready for sex within 30 mins or earlier, if i had sex in less then an hour i was ready for sex again. But last two years with ED if i masterbate i cant have sex for at least 5 weeks (penis doesnt go up and i am not horny at all to initialize sex) so i stopped masterbating to at lease have something for sex. if i remember correctly in Last two years i think i have masterbated only twice.

 

[Rastas]

Just found my test results taken in febuary

ANDROGENS (serum)
Testosterone (10.0 - 25.0) nmol/L : 16.1
SHBG (10 to 50) nmol/L: 22
Calculated free testo. (225 - 725) pmol/L : 395
FAI (20.0 - 160.0): 73.2

i am turning 30 in next 3 months.


i forgot to tell one thing, 2 years ago if i masterbated i was still horny and was ready for sex within 30 mins or earlier, if i had sex in less then an hour i was ready for sex again. But last two years with ED if i masterbate i cant have sex for at least 5 weeks (penis doesnt go up and i am not horny at all to initialize sex) so i stopped masterbating to at lease have something for sex. if i remember correctly in Last two years i think i have masterbated only twice.

That blood work is good, AK. Our numbers are a little different than the boys in the states. I'm the same age and my pre-cycle blood work is just a fraction higher than yours. I have no issues off-cycle. Occasionally if I'm with a new girl (that I like) I have a little performance anxiety, but that goes away. There is a psychological element to this. In my opinion it's your mind playing tricks with you preventing you from getting hard and killing your libido.

Do you take medication for a mental illness?

 

[Megatron28]

Just found my test results taken in febuary

ANDROGENS (serum)
Testosterone (10.0 - 25.0) nmol/L : 16.1
SHBG (10 to 50) nmol/L: 22
Calculated free testo. (225 - 725) pmol/L : 395
FAI (20.0 - 160.0): 73.2

i am turning 30 in next 3 months.


i forgot to tell one thing, 2 years ago if i masterbated i was still horny and was ready for sex within 30 mins or earlier, if i had sex in less then an hour i was ready for sex again. But last two years with ED if i masterbate i cant have sex for at least 5 weeks (penis doesnt go up and i am not horny at all to initialize sex) so i stopped masterbating to at lease have something for sex. if i remember correctly in Last two years i think i have masterbated only twice.

Your testosterone level is not in the hypogonadal range. It isn't ideal either but it probably isn't causing your symptoms. Average TT for a 30 year old is probably around 600ng/dl. I converted your and you are at about 465. Hypogonadism is considered below 300ng/dl.

Have you checked your Prolactin? You masterbation issue sounds like it could be a Prolactin problem. That would affect your happiness as well as high Prolactin affects dopamine.

And like Rastas asked, let us know about any other medications you are on including ones for depression.

 

[Ak1983]

thanks guys ,

No i am not taking any medication for anything (except viagra, cialis, levetra).

i will have to research what prolactin is but i never heard of it.

My mind playing tricks doesnt sound right because i already thought about this, just for testing purposes i hired working girls few times, not to cheat on my girl just to test , i didnt have performance anxiety with them.
Girl 1: penis up for 10 secs, then down, pre-cum and then never went up, she tried everything but no luck.
Girl 2: penis was hard, unstopable pressure (no pain or anything just horney ) she rubbed it with her hand and with 7 secs i cam
Girl 3: penis was going soft in anyother potition except one, when i was on top of her and when i did not take the penis out, duration of sex was about 2 mins hardly before i cam but the trick was to stay in that position and dont take the penis out.

All above was done without any help of pills such as viagra etc, i wanted to know what can i do naturally.

guys i dont know if i should have post this but please help me finding the root cause, trt was my last hope and you guys are saying testos are not my problem and now i am highly upset as i cant see any hope. i love my girl and this is destroying the relationship. many times i thought i should just let her go as she she doesnt deserves this.

should i strat masterbating again, did i somehow over stimulated my penis, i have no idea whats wrong.why life was great 2 years ago, sex was awesome and whst happended to me now..

 

[Megatron28]

thanks guys ,

No i am not taking any medication for anything (except viagra, cialis, levetra).

i will have to research what prolactin is but i never heard of it.

My mind playing tricks doesnt sound right because i already thought about this, just for testing purposes i hired working girls few times, not to cheat on my girl just to test , i didnt have performance anxiety with them.
Girl 1: penis up for 10 secs, then down, pre-cum and then never went up, she tried everything but no luck.
Girl 2: penis was hard, unstopable pressure (no pain or anything just horney ) she rubbed it with her hand and with 7 secs i cam
Girl 3: penis was going soft in anyother potition except one, when i was on top of her and when i did not take the penis out, duration of sex was about 2 mins hardly before i cam but the trick was to stay in that position and dont take the penis out.

All above was done without any help of pills such as viagra etc, i wanted to know what can i do naturally.

guys i dont know if i should have post this but please help me finding the root cause, trt was my last hope and you guys are saying testos are not my problem and now i am highly upset as i cant see any hope. i love my girl and this is destroying the relationship. many times i thought i should just let her go as she she doesnt deserves this.

should i strat masterbating again, did i somehow over stimulated my penis, i have no idea whats wrong.why life was great 2 years ago, sex was awesome and whst happended to me now..

So with two of the three prostitutes you achieved erection and ejaculation. But you cannot do the same with your girlfriend?

If you masterbate, can you get an erection and ejaculate every time (or most of the time)? And would you be able to masturbate again the next day and the next day?

Your hormone levels were probably the same for all the girls. It could be a Prolactin issue. You definitely should check your estradiol levels too. And also try working with a psychologist and/or sex therpist.

Have you ever had any traumatic sexual experiences?

 

[Ak1983]

So with two of the three prostitutes you achieved erection and ejaculation. But you cannot do the same with your girlfriend?

If you masterbate, can you get an erection and ejaculate every time (or most of the time)? And would you be able to masturbate again the next day and the next day?

Your hormone levels were probably the same for all the girls. It could be a Prolactin issue. You definitely should check your estradiol levels too. And also try working with a psychologist and/or sex therpist.

Have you ever had any traumatic sexual experiences?

correct, my actual problem is not getting erections but the problem is to keep erections., i do get erections but it goes down very quick round 10 secs or 15 secs,

the funny part is sometimes i am extremly horney and my penis goes up but not more then 10 secs and it goes down even though i am still horney. this is the exact case when having sex with my girl. i am horney on her but penis goes down just after 10 secs. if i am on top of her i can survive for a min or two maximum, in that time if i cant achieve cum then it goes down. although a min is extremly short time to please any girl (whole new topic, dont wanna go there)

now with masterbating, almost the same case but not exactly. when i touch myself my penis goes up for little longer, approximatly 2 mins, while i m touch myself it goes down even i am extremly horney and leave me rubbing a soft penis. if i keep rubbing the soft penis then its on my luck, sometimes it goes up again for 30 secs i suppose and mostly i use that time to cum before it goes soft and leaves me horney.

this was not the case, masterbation or sex, my penis was hard and up and if i want it could make it stay up for longer time. i remember 2 years ago i had sex forabout 1 hour 20 mins (without any viagra etc).

why those days are gone?

i never had any traumatic experience in sex, the whole life i have been proud telling my friends that i get hard erections and i last way longer then they do in bed and i have been really happy about it.

I miss all that...

 

[Megatron28]

What is your blood pressure typically?

Get blood work again.

CBC
Metbolic Panel
Total Testosterone
Estradiol
Prolactin
LH
FSH
Cholesterol Panel
HbA1c
PSA

That's all I can think of running for now. Other guys will chime in if I missed one.

 

[Ak1983]

What is your blood pressure typically?

Get blood work again.

CBC
Metbolic Panel
Total Testosterone
Estradiol
Prolactin
LH
FSH
Cholesterol Panel
HbA1c
PSA

That's all I can think of running for now. Other guys will chime in if I missed one.

i have some of them taken the sametime,

Fasting

chol ( mmol ) : 6.2
Triq (mmol): 1.9
HDL-C (mmol): 1.0
LDL-C (mmol): 4.2

What is wrong with me megatron also any advise for my visit to doctor this friday?

 

[Megatron28]

You have to post reference ranges or the numbers are kind of meaningless.

I doubt anyone can diagnose you over the internet without complete medical history and blood work. Could be psychological. Could be hormonal. Could be physical (e.g. blood pressure or prolactin). Could be a combination. Might be something else altogether. Get the blood work results and let's go from there.

 

[halfwit]

So with two of the three prostitutes you achieved erection and ejaculation. But you cannot do the same with your girlfriend?

If you masterbate, can you get an erection and ejaculate every time (or most of the time)? And would you be able to masturbate again the next day and the next day?

Your hormone levels were probably the same for all the girls. It could be a Prolactin issue. You definitely should check your estradiol levels too. And also try working with a psychologist and/or sex therpist.

Have you ever had any traumatic sexual experiences?

I second Megatron's assessment; totally sounds like a prolactin problem. Anyone that has experienced high prolactin knows how frustrating it can be to try to get business done by pushing rope in the bedroom. I bet that estradiol is elevated, or on its way too.

Hopefully you can get this squared away soon. As every man knows that as our lives revolve around our penis, it can be very harmful to our self esteem and quality of life.

My .02c

 

[Ak1983]

You have to post reference ranges or the numbers are kind of meaningless.

I doubt anyone can diagnose you over the internet without complete medical history and blood work. Could be psychological. Could be hormonal. Could be physical (e.g. blood pressure or prolactin). Could be a combination. Might be something else altogether. Get the blood work results and let's go from there.

megatron i would love to do my blood test as you advised but its not in my control, i tried many centres but they dont do any test without doctors authorization. i am stuck. i did not have any physical or mental issues in past, my medical history has been cleaned untill this ED issue i got. i understand its not possible to on internet, i have suffered for 2 years and i want this to end now.

 

[Ak1983]

I second Megatron's assessment; totally sounds like a prolactin problem. Anyone that has experienced high prolactin knows how frustrating it can be to try to get business done by pushing rope in the bedroom. I bet that estradiol is elevated, or on its way too.

Hopefully you can get this squared away soon. As every man knows that as our lives revolve around our penis, it can be very harmful to our self esteem and quality of life.

My .02c

thank halfwit, i need to research about prolectin as i dont know what thst is. you are right about man's life, imagine me, i am suffering for 2 years and now feel ashamed when i go soft on my beautiful girl.

 

[Ak1983]

an intresting development

This morning i got morning wood and since then i am bit horney, like i want sex not sure if this is the testosterone kick but whatever it is, its nice.