Serious Concern . Need ur help here guys

[darkwing86]

Hey guys , i have a concern . Now im not one to go freaking out or blowing things out of proportion here ... but just these past few days i realy noticed ive got some serious lumps behind both my nipple areas .I dont check this too often . Ive been realy lethargic and tired these past few weeks and have been upping my AI . When i feel slightly to the side and push down on the my nipple area ... there is about a dime sized lump in the exact same area on both of my nipples . I have pharma nolva and arimidex .Ive been taking 1mg adex everyday these past 3 days and 20mg nolva .

My question is, if this is gyno , when its in this lump phase , can it still be reversed ? At what point is it too late to reverse it ?

What do you guys suggest i do ? Realy need help here.... Do you guys at all feel any type of gland or lump behind ur nipple area at any given point of the day ... ?

 

[AlmightyZeus]

Hey guys , i have a concern . Now im not one to go freaking out or blowing things out of proportion here ... but just these past few days i realy noticed ive got some serious lumps behind both my nipple areas .I dont check this too often . Ive been realy lethargic and tired these past few weeks and have been upping my AI . When i feel slightly to the side and push down on the my nipple area ... there is about a dime sized lump in the exact same area on both of my nipples . I have pharma nolva and arimidex .Ive been taking 1mg adex everyday these past 3 days and 20mg nolva .

My question is, if this is gyno , when its in this lump phase , can it still be reversed ? At what point is it too late to reverse it ?

What do you guys suggest i do ? Realy need help here

The FAQ's instruct for your only chance at reversal if you caught it still early is 40mg a day of Nolva for a week and then 20mg a day until the lump goes away. I'm pretty sure there isn't a point at which it's too late.. More of... You have to try first with Nolva and if it definitely doesn't go away then of course surgery is what you're left with. My dad reduced his dime size lump with the same dose I told you. Good luck.

I wouldn't go increasing your AI if you don't have blood work. Blood work is the only way to find out where you're at. Go to privatemdlabs.com and get the female hormone panel, very cheap. But definitely try the dose above at your chance of reversal.

I would post your stats and cycle info, That is what these vets will want to know.

 

[halfwit]

I agree with the above, but I want to also let you know that you can actually cause lumps by constantly feeling your breast tissue. If you happened to notice sore/itchy nipples, then felt around and noticed the lumps, I'd get a blood test. Lymph nodes around the areola can also puff up, giving a false scare.

If you're absolutely certain it's gyno, get a doctor to take a peek, you don't have to mention anything about AAS (I wouldn't); just state you noticed it one day and were concerned.

My .02c

 

[darkwing86]

See heres the weird thing ... is they were abit sore which is what made me check and look at them . There are moments when i train and drink alot of water , and they look almost "droopier" then normal . I dont know if its just water retention ..... then i do a few sets for chest .. and it seems to firm the area up . Howeever ... the lump of something is defeinetly there .... When u guys feel that area ..... do u feel anything at all ? a lump , gland .. anything ?

 

[halfwit]

See heres the weird thing ... is they were abit sore which is what made me check and look at them . There are moments when i train and drink alot of water , and they look almost "droopier" then normal . I dont know if its just water retention ..... then i do a few sets for chest .. and it seems to firm the area up . Howeever ... the lump of something is defeinetly there .... When u guys feel that area ..... do u feel anything at all ? a lump , gland .. anything ?

I'm blessed with a high estradiol tolerance, so I've yet to acquire any lumps. Puffy nipples are usually just caused from water retention though. I do get sore nipples, but that's often from the salt in my sweat rubbing them on my shirt as I can be quite the sweaty bastard.

I wish I had more personal experience on this one bud, but outside having friends deal with gyno, I can't give personal insight beyond that. Raloxifene is the route they went to clear things up FYI.

 

[darkwing86]

Thanks so much halfwit . See i realy dont know what this is . To be honest , ive always had this puffy nipple issue ... mainly when i drink alot of water i notice them ... im sure its water retention . If im at the gym , i can literally hit a few sets of chest and the area literally almost immediately firms up. So i think its water ... cause ti doesnt look like gyno to me . But then again . there are these damn lumps there which i never realy gave enough time into checking the area to know if they were always there . even before cycling .

 

[oldmusclemike]

So you don't really know what this is so how are we to even help when we don't know. Your DR. can examine and get a good idea. He can send you for a mammogram they are not just for women or cancer. If we knew more about your condition we could possibly help more. Why are you upping your dose of Arimidex when you don't know what's up. Also Arimidex is used to help control you E2 level and not for reversing Gyno. also if you are lethargic that is a clear side of low estrogen and if you are upping your AI that will make it much more worse. Get BW asap

Hasn't that crossed your mind. Do you know what happens when you have low E2? Do you know all the sides of high and low Estrogen and what happens when you crash you Estrogen. Stickys and learn about Estrogen sides.
I'll give you a short list:

Low Estrogen Side Effects:
- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects:-
Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues

 

[luckypaul]

Im with seeing your GP and take it from there. Like HW said, I would not mention aas.

 

[ELicit23]

So you don't really know what this is so how are we to even help when we don't know. Your DR. can examine and get a good idea. He can send you for a mammogram they are not just for women or cancer. If we knew more about your condition we could possibly help more. Why are you upping your dose of Arimidex when you don't know what's up. Also Arimidex is used to help control you E2 level and not for reversing Gyno. also if you are lethargic that is a clear side of low estrogen and if you are upping your AI that will make it much more worse. Get BW asap

Hasn't that crossed your mind. Do you know what happens when you have low E2? Do you know all the sides of high and low Estrogen and what happens when you crash you Estrogen. Stickys and learn about Estrogen sides.
I'll give you a short list:

Low Estrogen Side Effects:
- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects:-
Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues

Hmm... I think I'm experiencing low estrogen on 1000g of test E lol I take arimidex .50 E3D... Im about to just drop the Adex?

 

[halfwit]

Hmm... I think I'm experiencing low estrogen on 1000g of test E lol I take arimidex .50 E3D... Im about to just drop the Adex?

Blood tes... Shit, NY.

My rule of thumb (which isn't ALWAYS accurate) is if you've got joint pain with NO swelling, it's low. If you have swelling at the sock line, it's likely high.

Unfortunately as Mike pointed out, the sides are very similar.


I hope you get it figured out soon darkwing!

 

[Milton]

So you don't really know what this is so how are we to even help when we don't know. Your DR. can examine and get a good idea. He can send you for a mammogram they are not just for women or cancer. If we knew more about your condition we could possibly help more. Why are you upping your dose of Arimidex when you don't know what's up. Also Arimidex is used to help control you E2 level and not for reversing Gyno. also if you are lethargic that is a clear side of low estrogen and if you are upping your AI that will make it much more worse. Get BW asap

Hasn't that crossed your mind. Do you know what happens when you have low E2? Do you know all the sides of high and low Estrogen and what happens when you crash you Estrogen. Stickys and learn about Estrogen sides.
I'll give you a short list:

Low Estrogen Side Effects:
- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects:-
Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues

thanks for sharing

 

[darkwing86]

Thanks for all the help and replies guys . Im going to try and figure out a way to get a check and bloodwork from my doctor .I just don know what to tell him in order for him to give me a panel so i can see my E2 levels . I started dosing nolvadex at 40mg eveyday for 3 days now . Im going to leave Ai and take it normally at .5 e3d or so .

 

[Teutonic]

Thanks for all the help and replies guys . Im going to try and figure out a way to get a check and bloodwork from my doctor .I just don know what to tell him in order for him to give me a panel so i can see my E2 levels . I started dosing nolvadex at 40mg eveyday for 3 days now . Im going to leave Ai and take it normally at .5 e3d or so .

Do they hurt when u use bench say 315 or 225 ?

Mine hurt. Especially when I fingered them a lot.

My left looked saggy from behind nip to wards the arm pit..ever so slightly.... Mine were cut out and the mammary was almost my thumb s last knuckle with a small tendril running towards the armpit. Fatty soft bugger looking nasty growth. Gyno surgeries cake

 

[darkwing86]

Honestly there are moments when they looka bit puffy and soft , but like i said , i can do a couple sets . and immediately they firm up . i can visually see a difference right away . they dont hurt either . im hoping this nolva may help me here

 

[Teutonic]

I think it will..don t read the pot sides. It ll psyche u out..they re rare..

 

[Milton]

Honestly there are moments when they looka bit puffy and soft , but like i said , i can do a couple sets . and immediately they firm up . i can visually see a difference right away . they dont hurt either . im hoping this nolva may help me here

hope you get better, keep us posted.

 

[oliverduke]

hope you get better, keep us posted.

Once I get over 12-15%bf I get massive hard (noticeable not like stomach fat or other fat to feel) lumps behind my nipples, stays until I get sub 10% then it just vanishes

I think a lot of people jump on the gyno wagon too soon... Mine looks like bad puffy nip gyno with a hard feel to it but it's most likely a combination of fatty tissue and water in the glands at too high a bf%

Get sub 10% before you panic and have ur nipples hacked at.

 

[Milton]

take it easy and it will work out.