Should I ABORT my cycle or drop test?

[AJ007]

I have been on the for almost 2 yr. I decided to do a blast. I'm pinning 2x a week @ 200mg. I am in my 4th week.
I just went in for a sinus surgery and the heart monitor flagged me.. I just got done with an Ekg by my general Dr. and now I'm off to see a cardiologist for a heart fib and aspirin is in my daily protocol.. FAK!!!
Should I ABORT my cycle? Drop all test? Or continue with trt dosages of which are on the high side... 1700/32 @ 100mg e3.5d.
Thanks in advance guys!!

 

[gruntwerk]

Just curious - do you have a history of any heart issues in the past? Does heart disease run in your family at all? Do you have hypertension? Cholesterol levels?

They will likely send you for a stress test now and an echo, did they say they think it's afib? What happened on the heart monitor to throw the flag? Skipping beats?

 

[AJ007]

Mother claims her heart skips but undiagnosed as to root cause. So no known heart diseases..
Yes afib in what they called it.. They/I was hoping the anastasia was cause but today's Ekg confirmed.
Cholesterol and BP are excellent but I have occasional palpitations.
I am extremely fit.. 5'10 220 @ 8-10% bf. Measured with calipers. I'm in the gym almost 2 hours almost everyday and mountain bike when possible. Riding 4 hours+ and 3000 ft elevation change..

Would test have anything to do with this?
Should I disclose my cycle or keep hush?
I know it's not culprit but will it exaggerate symptoms?

 

[tbonexl]

Blasting is not taking merely a trt dose of test for 2+ years. You basically replaced your natural test with exogenous test. Not sure why you decided to do this...

 

[anzel]

Blasting is not taking merely a trt dose of test for 2+ years. You basically replaced your natural test with exogenous test. Not sure why you decided to do this...

Yeah I'm wondering this too.
If you are Dr prescribed trt then you should ask your trt Dr about this new development.

Off topic but I love Mt. Biking too...how do you maintain that size riding that frigging much !?

 

[AJ007]

Blasting is not taking merely a trt dose of test for 2+ years. You basically replaced your natural test with exogenous test. Not sure why you decided to do this...

You miss read... I'm in my 4th week of that dose.. 400mg/ week.
Trt dose is 200mg per week per my Dr. and labs..

I eat constantly...

 

[gruntwerk]

Mother claims her heart skips but undiagnosed as to root cause. So no known heart diseases..
Yes afib in what they called it.. They/I was hoping the anastasia was cause but today's Ekg confirmed.
Cholesterol and BP are excellent but I have occasional palpitations.
I am extremely fit.. 5'10 220 @ 8-10% bf. Measured with calipers. I'm in the gym almost 2 hours almost everyday and mountain bike when possible. Riding 4 hours+ and 3000 ft elevation change..

Would test have anything to do with this?
Should I disclose my cycle or keep hush?
I know it's not culprit but will it exaggerate symptoms?

Well afib means the two upper chambers of the heart beat funny which causes them to be out of sync with the two bottom chambers, but with all the reading I've done I have not heard of afib from AAS. I've seen the enlarged heart or enlarged left ventricle, rapid heart rate and high blood pressure... haven't noticed documentation on afib. Although who knows, there isn't too many long term studies done on blasting doses.

I'm sure if you're RX'd the test for TRT then they'll let you know if that could have caused it, but if it were me I would drop back to your TRT dose until you talk to the cardiologist... I say this because I'm willing to bet the larger test dose could exasperate the afib or afib symptoms. They cardio will surely send you for the stress-echo which isn't too bad - they'll strap you up with monitors and you will run until your heart rate is at peak then they rush you off the treadmill to the table so they can do the echo-cardiogram, that will show them exactly whats going on meaning is it just afib or is something causing afib. I believe they're using the term afib generically to describe a funky heart beat, so the echo will show if there is any enlargement, any blockage, valve issues.. etc. I do know afib can be treated successfully with heart rhythm meds.

Hope all goes well.. make sure you come back to let us know how it's going man. Also... if it were me I would not disclose the usage of higher than RX'd doses, they might suspend your TRT for that and they will likely use that as a ploy and blame everything on it.

Do you take any meds? Any other stuff you're using like T3/T4 or clen? Ephedra?

 

[AJ007]

Nature-thyroid 97.5 MG 2x ed
Spirolactone 50mg 2x ed for cystic acne.
L.cialis
I did give blood about a month ago as I was a bit light headed on occasion. Thought rbc might be high..?

I know not to disclose upped dosage. I hate to have wasted this past month..

At 44 I'm in great shape but do struggle with severe depression. I dropped all those meds 5yr after starting them 10 years ago and then used fitness to keep semi sane.
I guess I'll go into cruise mode.. And hope for the best.. I finally had a perfect window between check ups to do my first blast. I really hate to terminate if I don't have to..

 

[gruntwerk]

Nature-thyroid 97.5 MG 2x ed
Spirolactone 50mg 2x ed for cystic acne.
L.cialis
I did give blood about a month ago as I was a bit light headed on occasion. Thought rbc might be high..?

I know not to disclose upped dosage. I hate to have wasted this past month..

At 44 I'm in great shape but do struggle with severe depression. I dropped all those meds 5yr after starting them 10 years ago and then used fitness to keep semi sane.
I guess I'll go into cruise mode.. And hope for the best.. I finally had a perfect window between check ups to do my first blast. I really hate to terminate if I don't have to..

I hear ya with the depression... I have some rough PTSD issues, fitness definitely helps me stay above water. I avoid psychiatric meds at all costs.

Have you talked to your TRT doc about this issue arising? The nature thyroid has a possible side effect of irregular heart beat, how long have you taken it? Pretty sure if your hematocrit was too high you would have noticed hyper tension more so than the funny heart beat. Have you spoke to any of your docs yet?

 

[AJ007]

I Just talked with my general Dr. that verified the irregularity. She didn't ask many questions. She passed me on to the specialist.
My trt Dr isn't the most receptive. I have dealt with backne and ED since being on trt with little help from him.. I had to suggest my e2 be measured on my panels with it coming In @ 63 and he still wouldn't prescribe an AI. I have to get that and cialis from a different source.

 

[luckypaul]

If you have an underlying heart condition, I think you such go back on trt until things get sorted out.

 

[TheResearcher]

Get your heart healthy first brothah...
If it were me, I would def back off the higher doses for HRT and do the minimum.
If you're worried about losing muscle/strength, get your diet spot on for maintenance of weight.
I don't think anyone here is qualified enough to tell you otherwise, so, error on the side of caution if anything.

BTW, have you had any bloods done recently? Any numbers off?

 

[gruntwerk]

Get your heart healthy first brothah...
If it were me, I would def back off the higher doses for HRT and do the minimum.
If you're worried about losing muscle/strength, get your diet spot on for maintenance of weight.
I don't think anyone here is qualified enough to tell you otherwise, so, error on the side of caution if anything.

BTW, have you had any bloods done recently? Any numbers off?

I was saying the same thing above, it's hard to really say as we are not doctors but it only seems logical to stop the high dose and continue with just TRT doses until you know what's going on, I'm sure the cardiologist is going to look thru all your meds and such so he will be able to give you the answer if test is/was/or could be the cause. Like I said once they run a stress echo they will be able to physically see if if anything is wrong with your hearts anatomy.

Did your regular doc advise anything about your TRT or other meds? Did they say to back off training or anything? Surprised you need cialis on TRT if e2 is in check.

 

[oldmusclemike]

For overall health reasons I would back off the upped dosage. Look as grunt and others say the same thing back off. Why not? you have the rest of your life to do AAS if your health is ok and isn't this what it's all about. I'm 65 and AAS doesn't hurt me at all. My problem is my joints and working out.

Get with the MD's as you are and just back off until you get it all squared away. Simple Simon !

 

[AJ007]

BTW, have you had any bloods done recently? Any numbers off?

Blood work was perfect and bought me a 6 month window...

 

[AJ007]

Did your regular doc advise anything about your TRT or other meds? Did they say to back off training or anything? Surprised you need cialis on TRT if e2 is in check.

Regular Dr just verified the irregularity.
No discussion of causes.

Trt had e2 @ 63 I found a source for an AI to bring into check but still elevated enough for ed.. Of which the liquid cialis works great!!

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

How is the bp.

 

[Mprtz]

Was the irregularity diagnosed as AFIB and not PVC?

 

[AJ007]

B.P was something like 119/79 ~ 124/84
It was diaged as afib but the anesthesiologist wasn't convinced because of my slow heart rate..

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

2 years is a long time ... I did 2 years once and would never do it again unless I was planning on being permenantly on trt.