Simple yet effective cutting cycle???

[bongo22]

i have alot to say about this, and in no way am i flaming you or intend to sound aggressive. the reason you have been looking at Anavar (var), tbol, Winstrol (winny) and masteron for cutting is because the drug profiles for them list them as 'cutters', although none of those drugs will help you lose weight. some say var will help, but i disagree. the only reason they are listed as cutters is because they do not encourage water retention like the 'mass' drugs are known to. the only thing that will cut you up is diet and cardio, ignoring clen, t3, dnp. and i think people read that these drugs 'harden' you up, well its not like they turn soft fat into to hard ripped muscle, they just make the muscle feel tighter. but if you have a bunch of fat on top of the muscle, its not going to make a difference. and also this 'lean muscle' thing i keep hearing. what does that mean? like some whole new breed of muscle, or like you gain fat muscle on bulkers? muscle is muscle. your body fat and water make muscle appear the way it appears. as far as a simple, effective 'cutting' cycle goes, get a damn good diet and cardio regimen, and run a drug that doesnt hold water to simply protect the muscle you have during a calorie deficit (test prop). you've got to be damn lean to notice visible effects of the drugs you have listed. i truly mean no disrespect, just stating what ive learned over the years, because i used to buy into that 'cutting' drug bullshit too. just got tired of wasting my money, thinking the drug was going to do more than it did.

i totally agree with this, when looking to choose a "cutting cycle" choose one that will maintain your gains and not eat into them when you start to up cardio, reduce carbs etc. I ran a 16wk cycle of, test prop, hgh, clen and t4 with great results. Lost virtually no muscle and went from about 15 / 16% to 6%. Granted i could have done this much quicker but i think the longer and slower reduction is much more effective and much more maintainable. This was about 3years ago and i still sit now at about 10%. Was quite expensive but damn well worth it just to see what shape i could really get myself into...

 

[austin4023]

believe me if i could afford hgh id be all over it.... but now im considering adding clen or t4 to my test+masteron stack what u guys think

 

[dialtone]

clen and t3/4 can be a good, mild addition to a cut cycle. but again, dont rely on them. you should rely on your diet and cardio.

 

[BIG RED]

Cutting time ....Who's ready

 

[appyman]

I'm currently using one rip 200 its tren mast an prop mix workin well for me at the mpmoent takin 1ml eod with 1, ml sus .I do get a little pip but no pain no gain lol