Dbol7
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Hello everyone,
I've been playing this game for over 24 years now and consider myself rather sophisticated when it comes to AAS.
Over the years I've experienced many different aspects of this world and I feel like its time to share a few things.
Mainly there are a few concerns I have with how these substances are used, so let me just go through everything I can think of at this moment, there might be a thing or two you find helpful.
High protein diet:
It seems like that's what we all practice and preach.
While it is true that we absorb and use more protein on cycle, there is still a limit to it. I hear it over and over again: "Eat more protein on cycle to get big"
Its helpful but it comes with a price. I have never been drinking and I consider my diet flawless, yet I got a blood test back that showed my liver is in line for some serious issues.
I've been off gear for 6 months at that time, so I wouldn't think that has anything to do with it. Also don't let my username fool you, I rarely use pills, especially not Dbol.
My doctor and I narrowed it down to a very high protein diet. So I skimmed down on it, levels went back to normal and I didn't loose a single Lbs.
Cardio on cycle:
Don't do it! Yes you read that right. Be sure to be lean before your cycle and make healthy nutritional choices. The extra muscle you gain should burn away whatever fat is left anyway.
Why no cardio? You run a high risk to get an enlarged heart and everything else from hypertension all the way to heart failure.
Just go for walks and stay off the couch, that should be enough to retain those abbs.
Salt:
For all the reasons above, especially high blood pressure. Avoid salt as much as possible, have a limited amount each day and make sure its some good quality sea or mineral salt.
I read posts of people recommending to eat Big Macs for the extra calories, that's just insane. You're asking for crazy water retention, whats the point of getting big if you'll just end up looking fat thanks to the water?
Tendons, ligaments and cartilage:
I've had issues with those all my life because I contracted limes disease as a child that went untreated.
We all know most AS are bad for your joints due to a reduced collagen synthesis.
However I can confirm HGH works wonders for it. I remember my first 6 month cycle @ 4ui ed, all my joints improved by a significant amount, permanently.
If you can afford it, by all means include HGH to each of your cycles, even if its just for 2 or 3 months, for your joints' sake.
Deca also helps a great deal by retaining synovial fluid in your joints. This is great and will get rid of any and all pains you might have. However note that this effect is only temporary, it helps if you suffer from arthritis, but if its an actual injury, such as a torn ligament, you'll only make matters worse by using Deca.
post cycle therapy (pct):
Not much to say here, the info thats out there is very solid. Personally I like to use Oxandrolone (Anavar) @ around 30mg from the day of the last injection all the way into week 2 of post cycle therapy (pct). It really doesn't seem to inhibit much. I've always recovered great doing this. (confirmed by bloodwork)
And I barley ever lost anything during post cycle therapy (pct).
AIs and SERMs:
Use them! I'm sure you've heard the pros say things like: "Nah a little estrogen is required, you'll loose gains by using Nolva, ect...)
BULLSHIT! The only gains you might loose are the extra 3lbs of boobs.
Sure some estrogen is required and you'll still have plenty of that even if you use Nolva on cycle. And yes you might not gain a pound or two, but is that really worth risking gyno? Also the high water retention you'll likely get without them, again, hypertension, enlarged heart.....
I recommend Nolva on cycle. I've done many with and without. I always had much less water and lower blood pressure while on it.
For post cycle therapy (pct) I recommend Aromasin and Clomid, I don't believe in a Nolva only post cycle therapy (pct), that stuff doesn't help much with it.
Dosage:
My rule of thumb: Less is more. Use the gear to improve whats already great and not the other way around. I recommend using medium dosages and make up for it by stacking different compounds.
For example:
Rather than using 1g of Test E, use around 500mg of Test + 300mg of Deca, you will get the same or better results with less side effects.
However it varies greatly from person to person. I've seen people blow up on 250mg Test and at the same time seen guys who worked harder and used 600mg that didn't grow half as fast.
My point: Find the right dose for yourself, don't listen to what your source of colleges tell you. Your body is different than theirs.
Alright, thats about it for now. I'm sure many will disagree, maybe rightfully so. Its just a few things I've learned and experienced over the years.
I've been playing this game for over 24 years now and consider myself rather sophisticated when it comes to AAS.
Over the years I've experienced many different aspects of this world and I feel like its time to share a few things.
Mainly there are a few concerns I have with how these substances are used, so let me just go through everything I can think of at this moment, there might be a thing or two you find helpful.
High protein diet:
It seems like that's what we all practice and preach.
While it is true that we absorb and use more protein on cycle, there is still a limit to it. I hear it over and over again: "Eat more protein on cycle to get big"
Its helpful but it comes with a price. I have never been drinking and I consider my diet flawless, yet I got a blood test back that showed my liver is in line for some serious issues.
I've been off gear for 6 months at that time, so I wouldn't think that has anything to do with it. Also don't let my username fool you, I rarely use pills, especially not Dbol.
My doctor and I narrowed it down to a very high protein diet. So I skimmed down on it, levels went back to normal and I didn't loose a single Lbs.
Cardio on cycle:
Don't do it! Yes you read that right. Be sure to be lean before your cycle and make healthy nutritional choices. The extra muscle you gain should burn away whatever fat is left anyway.
Why no cardio? You run a high risk to get an enlarged heart and everything else from hypertension all the way to heart failure.
Just go for walks and stay off the couch, that should be enough to retain those abbs.
Salt:
For all the reasons above, especially high blood pressure. Avoid salt as much as possible, have a limited amount each day and make sure its some good quality sea or mineral salt.
I read posts of people recommending to eat Big Macs for the extra calories, that's just insane. You're asking for crazy water retention, whats the point of getting big if you'll just end up looking fat thanks to the water?
Tendons, ligaments and cartilage:
I've had issues with those all my life because I contracted limes disease as a child that went untreated.
We all know most AS are bad for your joints due to a reduced collagen synthesis.
However I can confirm HGH works wonders for it. I remember my first 6 month cycle @ 4ui ed, all my joints improved by a significant amount, permanently.
If you can afford it, by all means include HGH to each of your cycles, even if its just for 2 or 3 months, for your joints' sake.
Deca also helps a great deal by retaining synovial fluid in your joints. This is great and will get rid of any and all pains you might have. However note that this effect is only temporary, it helps if you suffer from arthritis, but if its an actual injury, such as a torn ligament, you'll only make matters worse by using Deca.
post cycle therapy (pct):
Not much to say here, the info thats out there is very solid. Personally I like to use Oxandrolone (Anavar) @ around 30mg from the day of the last injection all the way into week 2 of post cycle therapy (pct). It really doesn't seem to inhibit much. I've always recovered great doing this. (confirmed by bloodwork)
And I barley ever lost anything during post cycle therapy (pct).
AIs and SERMs:
Use them! I'm sure you've heard the pros say things like: "Nah a little estrogen is required, you'll loose gains by using Nolva, ect...)
BULLSHIT! The only gains you might loose are the extra 3lbs of boobs.
Sure some estrogen is required and you'll still have plenty of that even if you use Nolva on cycle. And yes you might not gain a pound or two, but is that really worth risking gyno? Also the high water retention you'll likely get without them, again, hypertension, enlarged heart.....
I recommend Nolva on cycle. I've done many with and without. I always had much less water and lower blood pressure while on it.
For post cycle therapy (pct) I recommend Aromasin and Clomid, I don't believe in a Nolva only post cycle therapy (pct), that stuff doesn't help much with it.
Dosage:
My rule of thumb: Less is more. Use the gear to improve whats already great and not the other way around. I recommend using medium dosages and make up for it by stacking different compounds.
For example:
Rather than using 1g of Test E, use around 500mg of Test + 300mg of Deca, you will get the same or better results with less side effects.
However it varies greatly from person to person. I've seen people blow up on 250mg Test and at the same time seen guys who worked harder and used 600mg that didn't grow half as fast.
My point: Find the right dose for yourself, don't listen to what your source of colleges tell you. Your body is different than theirs.
Alright, thats about it for now. I'm sure many will disagree, maybe rightfully so. Its just a few things I've learned and experienced over the years.
