Something more than TRT, what do you think

hopefully you will listen to me, because im also 25. first off if you think you have low test, go tell a doctor and have him check you out.

i ran my first cycle when i was 18, then another one about a year later. after that i stayed on for about a year and half or two years because i had the same mentality as you. i was like wow this shit is awesome i want to have optimal test levels and look the best fuck the best etc etc. i also thought i had low test levels naturally because i've always had a baby face, no muscle, baby fat before i started taking test. maybe i was just a late bloomer but i dont think so actually. when i was 17 i could have easily passed for 14. and when i was 14 i looked 12.

after those 2 years of staying on, i came off when i was 21 because i realized how annoying it is to HAVE to do this ALL THE TIME when you are as young as we are. i tried to do a restart for many many months but i was just wasnt able to recover levels higher than 450 or 500ng/dl. that isn't so bad but far from normal range for a 21 year old. so i decided to get on and stay on. of course i have fun every now and then and do a mini blast maybe once a year or 18 months or something but being big isnt something i want anymore i just wanna have some nice size and stay lean and thats pretty much it, so i hang out around 200-250mg a week..

i'm not here to talk to you out of it but i am here to remind you what a burden it is to be on TRT.. ESPECIALLY when you don't have a proper prescription. it's always in the back of my mind "what if i run out of test". or "what if i want to take a long vacation somewhere, how will i get test there?". "how will i tell my girlfriend this is what i do.. will she be ok with it?" "what if my testosterone is improperly dosed". "will i have problems getting my future lady pregnant?". the list goes on and on... AND ON.

needing it because your genetics fucked you over with bad test levels is one thing, but needing it because you fucked yourself over is a harder pill to swallow. dont get me wrong there are definitely some benefits to it, especially later on in our years. i would imagine that constantly being on at least 250mg of test a week, plus sometimes i throw in proviron, sometimes i use masteron, or tren with caber, unless the girl has been with another juice head its probably the best fuck she's ever had. you really cant compete with a guy on gear when it comes to who fucked her better!
 
ok so from what i can read you want to start TRT or do a cruise for the rest of your life. as far as what else you should monitor besides your cholesterol level you need to see what your Free test, total test, LH, FSH, E2, to name a few.
you have alot of valid questions that you can easily find the answer to in the sticky threads.
Have you read those already? their at the top of the forums.
You should read the beginers cycle sticky thread to learn the basics of all that you are going to get into for the rest of your life it appears.
 
so heres the deal, your questions are all over the place are all good questions and shows me that you need to start from the begining and read the beginers cycle sticky thread in my signature. Learn the profiles of all the gear that you will use. Learn how to read blood lab panels.

that you should follow the gentlemens advice above ^^^^^^ and do it the right way or not do it, its your choice.
I see no mention of your diet or training.
Please list your stats, weight, height, bf%
 
hopefully you will listen to me, because im also 25. first off if you think you have low test, go tell a doctor and have him check you out.

i ran my first cycle when i was 18, then another one about a year later. after that i stayed on for about a year and half or two years because i had the same mentality as you. i was like wow this shit is awesome i want to have optimal test levels and look the best fuck the best etc etc. i also thought i had low test levels naturally because i've always had a baby face, no muscle, baby fat before i started taking test. maybe i was just a late bloomer but i dont think so actually. when i was 17 i could have easily passed for 14. and when i was 14 i looked 12.

after those 2 years of staying on, i came off when i was 21 because i realized how annoying it is to HAVE to do this ALL THE TIME when you are as young as we are. i tried to do a restart for many many months but i was just wasnt able to recover levels higher than 450 or 500ng/dl. that isn't so bad but far from normal range for a 21 year old. so i decided to get on and stay on. of course i have fun every now and then and do a mini blast maybe once a year or 18 months or something but being big isnt something i want anymore i just wanna have some nice size and stay lean and thats pretty much it, so i hang out around 200-250mg a week..

i'm not here to talk to you out of it but i am here to remind you what a burden it is to be on TRT.. ESPECIALLY when you don't have a proper prescription. it's always in the back of my mind "what if i run out of test". or "what if i want to take a long vacation somewhere, how will i get test there?". "how will i tell my girlfriend this is what i do.. will she be ok with it?" "what if my testosterone is improperly dosed". "will i have problems getting my future lady pregnant?". the list goes on and on... AND ON.

needing it because your genetics fucked you over with bad test levels is one thing, but needing it because you fucked yourself over is a harder pill to swallow. dont get me wrong there are definitely some benefits to it, especially later on in our years. i would imagine that constantly being on at least 250mg of test a week, plus sometimes i throw in proviron, sometimes i use masteron, or tren with caber, unless the girl has been with another juice head its probably the best fuck she's ever had. you really cant compete with a guy on gear when it comes to who fucked her better!

Where i live we do not have qualified TRT docs which is the main issue and why i will have to be my own doc. I do count with it being annoying AF, injecting all the time etc.....My test level is 350 ng/dl and thats pretty low isn't it.... I have been thiking about TRT for almost 2 years but only recently i have decided to go for it finally. For the past 6 months it has been pretty bad - no libido, weak erections, I dont even want to have sex anymore pretty much. The last thing you mentioned makes me do this even more lol. I am with a girl right now that used to date a juice head and i seem to not satisfy her enough, this makes me feel that i am failing as man. This is not the reason why i want to get on test, but it is one of them. I want to improve my sexual abilities and confidence and provide her the best fuck of her life lol.

ok so from what i can read you want to start TRT or do a cruise for the rest of your life. as far as what else you should monitor besides your cholesterol level you need to see what your Free test, total test, LH, FSH, E2, to name a few.
you have alot of valid questions that you can easily find the answer to in the sticky threads.
Have you read those already? their at the top of the forums.
You should read the beginers cycle sticky thread to learn the basics of all that you are going to get into for the rest of your life it appears.

Yes i know about the estrogen and the basic labs, but i heard that the LH/FSH is optional on TRT ? But it would make sense to test those too to see if the HCG is working as supposed to am I right ?
Yes i read some of those stickies alrdy but i will dive into it deeper.

so heres the deal, your questions are all over the place are all good questions and shows me that you need to start from the begining and read the beginers cycle sticky thread in my signature. Learn the profiles of all the gear that you will use. Learn how to read blood lab panels.

that you should follow the gentlemens advice above ^^^^^^ and do it the right way or not do it, its your choice.
I see no mention of your diet or training.
Please list your stats, weight, height, bf%

I am 6'5'' about 250 lbs with about 13-15bf% mostly clean diet and a lot of exercise
I dont want to use any other gear than test/hcg/ai for now, we will see about the blasts later on
 
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LH and FSH are irrelevant on TRT, they will register as zero. HCG won't change that, it acts as a synthetic LH to keep your balls from dying.
 
Where i live we do not have qualified TRT docs which is the main issue and why i will have to be my own doc. I do count with it being annoying AF, injecting all the time etc.....My test level is 350 ng/dl and thats pretty low isn't it.... I have been thiking about TRT for almost 2 years but only recently i have decided to go for it finally. For the past 6 months it has been pretty bad - no libido, weak erections, I dont even want to have sex anymore pretty much. The last thing you mentioned makes me do this even more lol. I am with a girl right now that used to date a juice head and i seem to not satisfy her enough, this makes me feel that i am failing as man. This is not the reason why i want to get on test, but it is one of them. I want to improve my sexual abilities and confidence and provide her the best fuck of her life lol.
what do you mean there are no qualified TRT doctors? what does that even mean. if your levels actually are 350, then that means you have a legit condition called hypogonadism. your doctor is required by law to treat you or at very least refer you to another doctor so that he can treat you. get a script bro its annoying not having one
 
what do you mean there are no qualified TRT doctors? what does that even mean. if your levels actually are 350, then that means you have a legit condition called hypogonadism. your doctor is required by law to treat you or at very least refer you to another doctor so that he can treat you. get a script bro its annoying not having one

he said that there are no TRT docs where he lives.
 
LH and FSH are irrelevant on TRT, they will register as zero. HCG won't change that, it acts as a synthetic LH to keep your balls from dying.
gotcha
what do you mean there are no qualified TRT doctors? what does that even mean. if your levels actually are 350, then that means you have a legit condition called hypogonadism. your doctor is required by law to treat you or at very least refer you to another doctor so that he can treat you. get a script bro its annoying not having one

We do have so called urologists who do treat this type of condition but they don't really know what they are doing, using testosterone undeconate every few weeks with no HCG or AI, i would rather treat myself on my own than to be on such protocol
 
Lol test U is the best u can get. My trt is 140mg test U every wensday, nothing more nothing less
And thats with insulin needle
 
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Lol test U is the best u can get. My trt is 140mg test U every wensday, nothing more nothing less
And thats with insulin needle

According to what i have read it is not but i could be wrong, why would be people bothering with frequent injections if they can pin 1 time a week and be good but yeh everybody is different so if it works for you then good :)
 
According to what i have read it is not but i could be wrong, why would be people bothering with frequent injections if they can pin 1 time a week and be good but yeh everybody is different so if it works for you then good :)

it all depends on the esthers half life and it also depends on the person as well.
 
what the ***, depends on person, yeah then if you dont like testosterone dont inject it. ester only determines the frequency on injection and 1 week is as low as you should go with undecanoate. we provide knowledge here, but you can do the **you wanna do. you can pin your ass every day if you want, i dont mind
 
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