Starting my anavar in 6 weeks.

TylerFallon

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Ive been training since I was 15 and im now almost 19, which is a little over 3 years. Anyway my diet is clean and I eat as much as I can. My stats

Height: 6ft
Age: 19
Weight: 175Ibs
Bodyfat: 10%
Training: 3.5 years

My training and diet are perfect at this point as I train with a bodybuilder right now that competes. He gave me a list for first cycle:

Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Ive done research alot of research also and this seems to be perfect. What are your thoughts? I don't want to hear people saying im too young blah blah.. I know a number of people that start gear at 19. I just want to hear your thoughts on the cycle.

Thanks
 
Starting Anavar Cycle in 6 weeks

Ive been training since I was 15 and im now almost 19, which is a little over 3 years. Anyway my diet is clean and I eat as much as I can. My stats

Height: 6ft
Age: 19
Weight: 175Ibs
Bodyfat: 10%
Training: 3.5 years

My training and diet are perfect at this point as I train with a bodybuilder right now that competes. He gave me a list for first cycle:

Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

I have everything for the cycle.

Ive done research alot of research also and this seems to be perfect. What are your thoughts? I don't want to hear people saying im too young blah blah.. I know a number of people that start gear at 19. I just want to hear your thoughts on the cycle.

Thanks
 
Haha your trainer is an asshole. Other than that, all im gonna say is DONT DO IT!!! and be prepared to get called a pussy...
 
Ok first off, I know you don't wanna hear this but you're too young to be on gear. Secondly no oral only cycles. They're too harsh on your body and it shuts down your T so gains are mild and you lose most if not all and possibly more gains. Another thing about the no orals only, only vag's use anavar only. Bro you gotta have a test base all the time. You shouldn't even think about steroids yet. You need to think about food, lifting heavy, sleeping, and getting ass. If you do an oral only your dick isn't gonna work while on cycle and you won't be getting laid. Your natural test is thru the roof right now so benefit off of it and make the crazy natural gains that you still can. Stick around here and read especially the stickies and you'll learn a lot so when the time comes and you are ready to do a cycle you'll be prepared.
 
Its not an opinion, its a fact. Anavar is the mildest form of oral. Whats your bf% by the way?

Taking an oral will only shut down your natty test production. Without a base of test its pointless. Please tell me what you think Var is going to do for you.
 
Oh and I'll be honest I stopped reading after you said you were 19 and wanted to do an oral only cycle. That's why I told you that you were too young. Ultimately the choice is your's and you're gonna do whatever you want. I just hope you take what I had to say and what everyone else has to say into consideration.
 
Appreciate the reply.

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic , and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on Anavar (var), the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on Anavar (var), its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

Cycle #1
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12
clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #2
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

Cycle #3
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11

If bulking, Test Enanthate could be substituted for prop, and 100mg could be injected every 3-4 days...however, this could cause more bloating, and complicate PCT timing.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid , and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk Thistle
The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA
A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC
Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E
Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water
Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil
Consuming lots of omega fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol
Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin
Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of tim
Ok first off, I know you don't wanna hear this but you're too young to be on gear. Secondly no oral only cycles. They're too harsh on your body and it shuts down your T so gains are mild and you lose most if not all and possibly more gains. Another thing about the no orals only, only vag's use anavar only. Bro you gotta have a test base all the time. You shouldn't even think about steroids yet. You need to think about food, lifting heavy, sleeping, and getting ass. If you do an oral only your dick isn't gonna work while on cycle and you won't be getting laid. Your natural test is thru the roof right now so benefit off of it and make the crazy natural gains that you still can. Stick around here and read especially the stickies and you'll learn a lot so when the time comes and you are ready to do a cycle you'll be prepared.
 
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DO you think that's enough avena sativa? That's what, 15-30 Calories?

Up that to at least a pound a day and forget the rest.
 
Its not an opinion, its a fact. Anavar is the mildest form of oral. Whats your bf% by the way?

Taking an oral will only shut down your natty test production. Without a base of test its pointless. Please tell me what you think Var is going to do for you.

10%
 
By all means then if you think it is safe to do go for it but get bloods done before, during, and after the cycle and post them up for us.
 
Hard headed I see. Good luck, will follow your log. Make sure your honest with your progress and sides.. =)
 
Just so everyone knows I am not suggesting that he do this cycle or any other male do this cycle. The only time I could see this being an acceptable cycle is if you were a female, no offense to OP. The OP has made his decision on his own and I tried to convince him otherwise but as I stated before he is going to do whatever he wants.
 
No, your "trainer" did NOT give you that list for a cycle...you took it from another forum, I am sitting here looking at YOUR POST with the same user name on another AAS forum where you posted an article containing this cycle.

You are a liar, and a fool. Lying and saying your "competing bodybuilder" friend told you to do this so we give you our blessing is stupid.

What is even the point of this thread? You know everyone will tell you this is dumb and pointless, but you're going to do it anyways. Just go away
 
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I never understand these threads..... You ask for help/advice while telling everyone that you don't want to hear about any negatives and that you're going to do it anyway.... so what's the point exactly?
 
The guy I train with Linked me to this article and told me to do the cycle.. Lol I don't see the big deal! Thats why I said he gave it to me. He linked me it.!
No, your "trainer" did NOT give you that list for a cycle...you took it from another forum, I am sitting here looking at YOUR POST with the same user name on another AAS forum where you posted an article containing this cycle.

You are a liar, and a fool. Lying and saying your "competing bodybuilder" friend told you to do this so we give you our blessing is stupid.

What is even the point of this thread? You know everyone will tell you this is dumb and pointless, but you're going to do it anyways. Just go away
 
The guy I train with Linked me to this article and told me to do the cycle.. Lol I don't see the big deal! Thats why I said he gave it to me. He linked me it.!
Okay whatever then bro, do whatever you want, because we all know you are going to no matter what we say. Just know you are too young, and an oral only cycle is not optimal in any way shape or form for many reasons.

I'm just tired of kids like this coming in and asking for advice and opinions, then ignoring all advice and opinions given that he doesn't want to hear. Absolutely ridiculous and it makes me want to punch a baby. Is this what it's like to be on tren? :D
 
I am gonna make one more suggestion will you please read the oral cycles sticky for your own sake, before you begin this cycle.
 
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