Sticking with moderate doses of Test

[str8rippinau]

Im just about to finish my first cycle and im already thinking about my second. Im taking 500MG of cyp a week.

Majority of people that iv spoken to tend to add another steroid during the second cycle as well as bump up the amount of test. But, i want to continue at 500MG.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this are? I understand that the growth may not be as fast or even be able to reach the limits of a more advanced cycle, but 500MG of test in the system should be more than enough to continue building and packing on mass?

Some advice would be great. Im wanting to use Test Cyp again for the next cycle at the same dosage. I know how my body reacts to it, and i know everything seems to work well. I dont mind if the results are not as outrageous, i just want that 'edge' over the natural way of doing things.

One more question. If i left about 6 weeks after my last injection, would that be enough to continue another cycle? Or should i wait a little longer...

Thanks

 

[UserAt204]

I didn't read the whole post but saw what I needed right up front. It's an excellent idea to run another test only at 500mg. Still my favorite. I would do this until you don't real gain much anymore. Everyone( myself included at one time) is so quick to want to add more gear at higher mg. Smartest man of the day award here bro. Test is all you need at this point. Next time throw in something if you want. Good choice.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I didn't read the whole post but saw what I needed right up front. It's an excellent idea to run another test only at 500mg. Still my favorite. I would do this until you don't real gain much anymore. Everyone( myself included at one time) is so quick to want to add more gear at higher mg. Smartest man of the day award here bro. Test is all you need at this point. Next time throw in something if you want. Good choice.

agreed!!! I feel like I just got slapped in the face!!! I have never read a post like this before where a guy is actually doing the right thing...props and yes you get the award!!!

You can keep gaining mass on test and user would be the one to talk to about it...he loves test only. It all depends on your diet bro..you can go either way

as far as 6 weeks after your last inject...well I would wait one more week after your post cycle therapy (pct) which should be 7 weeks and then get your blood work done...you never know that soon if your ready to get back on...Im pretty sure you didnt get your baseline blood work done so I would recommend waiting atleast 8-12 weeks after your last inject to give your body a chance to get back to as close to normal as possible and then get your blood work done and those will be your new baselines

 

[Repo]

Yeah - you're going to do great!

Just keep reading - taking notes and asking questions...

You're on the right track!

 

[megatron_ed]

Curious as to what your PCT will be. Also, you taking anything else during your cycle to combat sides? Thanks

 

[Fullmetalkid]

yeah definitley run 500mg test as long as it works for you. No need in spending money unless you need to. If you really want to see gains though, I don't think it would be such a bad idea to try a kickstart with d-bol.

 

[Teutonic]

CS and USER nailed..food, sleep..an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if you need it.

500 is all I ever do when I cycle..but I m old now...
IF you do add..stay away from 19 nor s..for now.

Read up on proviron..it s mild and has some limited Aromatase inhibitor (AI) properties.

Chlomid for pct 28 day s at 50 mg a day.

A lil Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will help your recovery..125-250 e 3 d..i m o.

T

 

[TheMilkMan]

Staying at 500mg/wk is a great idea. You should keep it at that dose until the gains slow... When you put it in perspective, 500mg/wk is 8-10x more than your body produces naturally... plenty test to make great gains.

 

[SloppyJoseph]

Way to use your head bro.


If I were you and you wanted to throw a little something extra into the next cycle, look at jump starting it with Dbol. That would be nice and mild for your second cycle. Remember, you have a LOT of time to play around with different compounds. No need to do them all at once.

 

[5x10]

the longer you stay off cycle, the more of an impact the 500mgs will have

imo, start serms 2.5-3 weeks after last injection, run clomid/nolva for 5 weeks(25,20mgs respectively), wait a month, do your blood test and see if your back to baselines
if so, then i would consider this period as the start of your "time off"
im conservative, so like they said above,8-12 weeks if not longer(18-22 weeks) to start your next cycle

i also think that mentally, its important to get back to your normal self again(hormonally), so you dont come to expect life on roids as the norm
easy pattern to fall into and i understand, who doesnt want to feel like superman all the time

 

[SloppyJoseph]

the longer you stay off cycle, the more of an impact the 500mgs will have

imo, start serms 2.5-3 weeks after last injection, run clomid/nolva for 5 weeks(25,20mgs respectively), wait a month, do your blood test and see if your back to baselines
if so, then i would consider this period as the start of your "time off"
im conservative, so like they said above,8-12 weeks if not longer(18-22 weeks) to start your next cycle

i also think that mentally, its important to get back to your normal self again(hormonally), so you dont come to expect life on roids as the norm
easy pattern to fall into and i understand, who doesnt want to feel like superman all the time

This is much easier said than done. I know when I came off my first cycle, all I could think about was my next one. It's REALLY hard to train natty after you see what you can do with a little help. But in the long run, it's the best decision.

 

[5x10]

This is much easier said than done. I know when I came off my first cycle, all I could think about was my next one. It's REALLY hard to train natty after you see what you can do with a little help. But in the long run, it's the best decision.

i know it, i know guys that wont workout unless they are on cycle
my old workout partner was one

for that point alone, i think its important for guys to work out hard for a couple of years minimum to even consider using,
so they know what normal progress is, what normal soreness feels like, etc.
so that when they do come off, they will understand its time to get back to normal, not the "i lost all my gains" attitudes

 

[SloppyJoseph]

i know it, i know guys that wont workout unless they are on cycle
my old workout partner was one

for that point alone, i think its important for guys to work out hard for a couple of years minimum to even consider using,
so they know what normal progress is, what normal soreness feels like, etc.
so that when they do come off, they will understand its time to get back to normal, not the "i lost all my gains" attitudes

Yeah I totally agree with that. I trained natty for 5+ years before I even considered AAS. Granted some of that wasn't really "Training" but with time comes experience. And you need to know your body and what it's telling you before you jump in and throw a supercharger on it.

Good post bro.

 

[Cobra Strike]

CS and USER nailed..food, sleep..an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if you need it.

500 is all I ever do when I cycle..but I m old now...
IF you do add..stay away from 19 nor s..for now.

Read up on proviron..it s mild and has some limited Aromatase inhibitor (AI) properties.

Chlomid for post cycle therapy (pct) 28 day s at 50 mg a day.

A lil Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will help your recovery..125-250 e 3 d..i m o.

T

t...your not suggesting running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) are you? lol

 

[UserAt204]

No. He's saying on cycle.

 

[Cobra Strike]

No. He's saying on cycle.

well fuk me hard and call me user!!

I didnt think so but it wasnt clear since he started talking about it after the post cycle therapy (pct) info lol

 

[SloppyJoseph]

^^ I thought he was talking about taking it during PCT also. I didn't want to be the new guy coming on here and telling him that was wrong.

For the record. Stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 4 days before you start any SERMS.

 

[Cobra Strike]

^^ I thought he was talking about taking it during post cycle therapy (pct) also. I didn't want to be the new guy coming on here and telling him that was wrong.

For the record. Stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 4 days before you start any SERMS.

Ya I know t wouldnt suggest that but the way he wrote it made me think that if I was a new guy I would assume he meant with post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[str8rippinau]

Hey guys

Thanks for the replys and support, much appreciated

Im using Nolva for the end of the cycle, nothing else atm.

Im thinking my second cycle will be 12 weeks after i finish up on this. Ill run arimidex and cyp at 500mg for 12 weeks again, then use Nolva after.

I was thinking of using Prop, but im worried about how i will react to it. The thought of gyno just puts me off, iv heard it has a bit more of a kick that cyp. What do you guys think? On the positive i wouldnt have to wait like 6 weeks for it to kick in due to the shorter ester.

btw a mate of mine has told me to cut out the arimidex because my gains will suffer. Just wondering how accurate that is? Im still going to run it regardless. Iv never had acne in my life, and atm iv got it down my arm and back. Also, im holding a lot of water. This is the sort of thing i want to minimize next cycle. Good lessons so far

 

[Cobra Strike]

Hey guys

Thanks for the replys and support, much appreciated

Im using Nolva for the end of the cycle, nothing else atm.

Im thinking my second cycle will be 12 weeks after i finish up on this. Ill run arimidex and cyp at 500mg for 12 weeks again, then use Nolva after.

I was thinking of using Prop, but im worried about how i will react to it. The thought of gyno just puts me off, iv heard it has a bit more of a kick that cyp. What do you guys think? On the positive i wouldnt have to wait like 6 weeks for it to kick in due to the shorter ester.

btw a mate of mine has told me to cut out the arimidex because my gains will suffer. Just wondering how accurate that is? Im still going to run it regardless. Iv never had acne in my life, and atm iv got it down my arm and back. Also, im holding a lot of water. This is the sort of thing i want to minimize next cycle. Good lessons so far

I think nolva is to weak to run alone for post cycle therapy (pct) but thats my opinion...

also the prop doesnt take 6 weeks..its ester is 2-3 days so it should kick in fairly fast...

dont stop taking your ai....it doesnt effect your gains enough to even talk about.

you need to drink more water and lower your sodium intake to control that bloat