still shut down, doc j and others advice

simpllyhuge said:
i naturally have always had a shitty sex drive. First thou i want to make sure my test levels are recovered.
Bro, if this is the case then this may be something that's just a part of your natural expression of libido. Get the bloodwork done and if everything checks out I wouldn't worry about things, you'll cause unecessary stress on yourself. As far as continuing post cycle therapy (pct) at this point I don't think anything over 20mg/day nolva, 50mg/day clomid is going to accelerate recovery proportional to dose. Run those doses for a few more weeks and see how you feel.
 
Old Balls said:
I had heard that once you are shut down, you are shut down regardless of time on...so if you are shut down for a 3 month cycle, it's the same as a 3 year cycle...

I'd like to know if this is true.
 
Aczech said:
As long as that 3 year cycle doesn't permanently shut you down

Can you be perm. shut down?? I think that is my point...it might take a bit longer to rcover after a long Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) type of cycle, but you won;t be shut down for god...correct?
 
WEll again if you are on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) it's because your body didn't function properly to begin with. YOu might recover to your previuous, low test state.
 
My last cycle I was on for around 10 months. After about 12-15 weeks I would drop all other compounds and continue with test at around 125-200mg per week. I have now been off everything for 10 weeks, and Im starting to get a sex drive back. I also recently tried lexapro for about 4 weeks and could not cum at all. I think the sides from depression medicine are worse than being shut down from AAS.
 
Old Balls said:
Can you be perm. shut down?? I think that is my point...it might take a bit longer to rcover after a long Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) type of cycle, but you won;t be shut down for god...correct?

Honestly, i don't know. It's one of those things that you really don't want to be guinee pig on though, unless you have a sponser to pay for a lifetime of gear, points, and alcohol swabs.
 
Old Balls said:
Can you be perm. shut down?? I think that is my point...it might take a bit longer to rcover after a long Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) type of cycle, but you won;t be shut down for god...correct?
I think it would be very difficult to be shut down permanently, however, everyone is different. Like I said, they've done studies on men who have been "shut down" for LONG periods and they all recovered their normal HPTA eventually. In one study they had a guy take 25mg/day of clomid for like 4 months!
 
i have access to letro right now but not really aromasin for a good price. My sex drive is already non existant so do you think i can throw in the letro and it will bring me back faster. I wouldnt have to worry about it killing my sex drive cause its dead any way
 
simpllyhuge said:
i have access to letro right now but not really aromasin for a good price. My sex drive is already non existant so do you think i can throw in the letro and it will bring me back faster. I wouldnt have to worry about it killing my sex drive cause its dead any way

I've read aromisan is good for LH release aswell but havn't read that about letro, I'd go with aromisan if you can get it..
 
simpllyhuge said:
im assuming it is? inless u think it could be shbg. in that case thou their isnt really anyhting i could do.

That's not accurate. You could take proviron. It binds strongly to shbg and frees up more of your natural test. If it was me I would try proviron first. It worked for tren dick very well.
 
ArkRoyal said:
That's not accurate. You could take proviron. It binds strongly to shbg and frees up more of your natural test. If it was me I would try proviron first. It worked for tren dick very well.
is proviron available as a research chem.?
 
no its not a research chem. And provorin will make me loose hair, which i dont want and i think that it would only be a temporary fix.
 
simpllyhuge said:
no its not a research chem. And provorin will make me loose hair, which i dont want and i think that it would only be a temporary fix.
Plus it's going to affect your HPTA inhibiting recovery (I swear to God if someone posts that proviron doesn't affect HPTA I will hurt you).

The best way IMO to deal with SHBG is low dose insulin use post cycle. I'm using about 5iu pwo 3-4x/week.
 
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