STOP dissin Dbol!!

[glubgawd]

This thread is mildly entertaining. I give it a 3.

Wish I'd have known about those EPIC dbol only strength gains earlier.....here I've been a jackass running test+deca+dbol or halo for strength gains all these years.....should have realized that the test and deca were actually hurting my strength gains.

OP should try a oral tren solo cycle for real legit gains. It's magic. Fuck test.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

LMAO! fuck test!

 

[Dark_Side]

just eat mouthfuls of salt and drink tones of water instead.

 

[ChrisWho?]

my point is, its the nature of the drug

test will also make you bloat, and you will lose that bloat just like the bloat loss when coming off of dbol
so when guys on here start dogging a guy for doing a dbol only cycle, i ask them to consider the fact that a 500mg test only cycle isnt going to be that different in terms of aromatization that the dbol will give off, your gonna bloat! and you can control it with both drugs with a serm so the results will appear that you didnt "gain as much" due to the fact that the bloat was controlled

why arent we giving the same criticism for someone doing a test cycle when compared to a more mild cycle like deca or anavar
i could say the same "dude, your going to bloat, alot of your gains will be water gains, you will have the joints of an old man, why dont you do deca or anavar as that have more lean,keepable gain

its up to the user to determine what path he wants to take, but when u see a thread where someone asks for some experiences or wants to talk about their dbol only cycle, all the replies are "you need to research, you need to rethink, your not going to keep your gains, test,test, test"

A test only cycle is totally different from a DBol only cycle. Your missing the whole point aside from bloat. When you inject test, it shuts down your natural production of test. Fortunately your ok because your injecting exo test back in there. Bloat is hardly anything on test when it can be controlled with diet and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). With a DBol only cycle, it shuts down your natural test production also. The difference is, your not injecting exogenious test back in your body. So your bodies test production falls to ZERO and stays at ZERO until after post cycle therapy (pct). That is when you lose all of your gains being you have no test. That is why oral only are stupid, not just becasue of bloating.
It's always the inexperienced users who are for the oral only cycle. You will never find a vet or educated person recommending or running an oral only. Get it through your head that no matter what you and your girlfriend Replica say, your logic is WRONG. Have fun with the abundance of estro streaming through your body.

 

[UserAt204]

Maybe they already have high estro and started a menstrual cycle with a dbol only cycle.

 

[5x10]

stop arguing with the clown Det. The guy just said he only does juice for a temporary fix. Which is just retarded.

And as usual, replica listens to him because he agrees with him. Just like every other oral only cycle thread. Funny really.

You two girls enjoy your bloated 6 weeks while we're gaining muscle. That we keep.

as usual, here come the insults when someone disagrees with you

retarded that i dont use steroids very often? its much dumber to stay on or "cycle" all the time as you expose yourself to some issues down the line with hdl/ldl, lipids
but im the dumb one for moderate use, lol

enjoy your heart attack, while i keep all my gains as i lift without roids and can consistently workout without them
im willing to bet you dont remember what it like to workout clean

A test only cycle is totally different from a DBol only cycle. Your missing the whole point aside from bloat. When you inject test, it shuts down your natural production of test. Fortunately your ok because your injecting exo test back in there. Bloat is hardly anything on test when it can be controlled with diet and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). With a DBol only cycle, it shuts down your natural test production also. The difference is, your not injecting exogenious test back in your body. So your bodies test production falls to ZERO and stays at ZERO until after post cycle therapy (pct). That is when you lose all of your gains being you have no test. That is why oral only are stupid, not just becasue of bloating.
It's always the inexperienced users who are for the oral only cycle. You will never find a vet or educated person recommending or running an oral only. Get it through your head that no matter what you and your girlfriend Replica say, your logic is WRONG. Have fun with the abundance of estro streaming through your body.

so your saying that because hes not running test with his dbol, he will lose his sex drive?
i havent heard of any dbol dick yet
when you get off a cycle of test, you will also have 0 test in your body, it happens when you use any roid

 

[UserAt204]

5x10. You my friend have issue. No one is staying on cycle all the time and I bet those same people have better natural gains than you and just because your point is retarded you feel the need to try and back it to the end. You are wrong so accept it.

 

[ChrisWho?]

as usual, here come the insults when someone disagrees with you

retarded that i dont use steroids very often? its much dumber to stay on or "cycle" all the time as you expose yourself to some issues down the line with hdl/ldl, lipids
but im the dumb one for moderate use, lol

enjoy your heart attack, while i keep all my gains as i lift without roids and can consistently workout without them
im willing to bet you dont remember what it like to workout clean

so your saying that because hes not running test with his dbol, he will lose his sex drive?
i havent heard of any dbol dick yet
when you get off a cycle of test, you will also have 0 test in your body, it happens when you use any roid

Ya no shit you have zero test which is why you run your post cycle therapy (pct). The whole reason behind having the fastest and smoothest recovery on pct is to not only keep from losing gains but get your hormones in check. It's already bad enough goin 4 weeks with low test building it up. But doin a 4 week dbol cycle plus a 4 week pct is 8 weeks of zero test. Thats two totally different things right there bud. Either way, your an idiot and have no idea how to run AAS effectively. Only newbies are stupid enough to pull shit like that.

 

[ChrisWho?]

5x10. You my friend have issue. No one is staying on cycle all the time and I bet those same people have better natural gains than you and just because your point is retarded you feel the need to try and back it to the end. You are wrong so accept it.

No kidding, man the fuck up and realize your an idiot with a shitty newbie concept.
-Oh, DBol dick(if there is such a thing)would be the least of your worries when theres more to it like hormonal imbalance. Your smart so im sure you know that right? Just like the only side effects that come with test are bloating.

 

[5x10]

5x10. You my friend have issue. No one is staying on cycle all the time and I bet those same people have better natural gains than you and just because your point is retarded you feel the need to try and back it to the end. You are wrong so accept it.

great counterpoint!

Ya no shit you have zero test which is why you run your post cycle therapy (pct). The whole reason behind having the fastest and smoothest recovery on pct is to not only keep from losing gains but get your hormones in check. It's already bad enough goin 4 weeks with low test building it up. But doin a 4 week dbol cycle plus a 4 week pct is 8 weeks of zero test. Thats two totally different things right there bud. Either way, your an idiot and have no idea how to run AAS effectively. Only newbies are stupid enough to pull shit like that.

but isnt the benefit of shorter cycles allow you to recover much quicker?
longer cycles take longer to recover, even if the same pct(as the shorter cycle) is utilized

im just saying that each roid has pros/cons, and its hypocritical to critize a guy for wanting to run a dbol only cycle because in reality, without the continuous use(1-2 cycles a year, every year) of hormones you will eventually go back to your genetic self

 

[5x10]

No kidding, man the fuck up and realize your an idiot with a shitty newbie concept.
-Oh, DBol dick(if there is such a thing)would be the least of your worries when theres more to it like hormonal imbalance. Your smart so im sure you know that right? Just like the only side effects that come with test are bloating.

yeah bro, running 500mgs of test is perfectally normal for your body because its test
makes perfect sense!

 

[ChrisWho?]

Yes it is, but when running cycles(short or long) you always use test as a base. Test is what makes you a man, like I said before, its bad enough goin through 4 weeks of pct trying to build it up, but thats just it, it's only 4 weeks. Not 4 weeks plus your cycle. You will get gains yes, but it's a bad way to do it and is rough on your body.

 

[ChrisWho?]

yeah bro, running 500mgs of test is perfectally normal for your body because its test
makes perfect sense!

It's not perfectly normal, I'm not sure where I said that? But it's a hell of a lot better than having ZERO test and being flooded with estrogen.

 

[5x10]

It's not perfectly normal, I'm not sure where I said that? But it's a hell of a lot better than having ZERO test and being flooded with estrogen.

you referenced hormone inbalances

dbol is a derivative of test, you act as if the only thing dbol provides is estrogen\
i understand what your saying, 8 weeks without test is a long time

but again, you will recover much quicker on a 4 week cycle compared to your standard 10-12 week cycle
so at week 4 of your test cycle, you arent making any(and thats the main point of concern as ive never heard anyone on a dbol only cycle complain of low test symptoms) test naturally, so 6-8 weeks there plus recovery(and 4 weeks isnt going to bring you back, you stop the serms around week 4 and need to wait for them to leave your body for an accurate blood test)

 

[ChrisWho?]

Why would anybody want to lose there sex drive, feel like absolute shit emotionally, no drive, no energy and have your hormones so out of whack that your estrogen sky rockets making you get gyno and break out all over with pimples for some decent gains on DBol? If you add test, just about all of that goes away and can be controlled. You follow?

 

[ChrisWho?]

you referenced hormone inbalances

dbol is a derivative of test, you act as if the only thing dbol provides is estrogen\
i understand what your saying, 8 weeks without test is a long time

but again, you will recover much quicker on a 4 week cycle compared to your standard 10-12 week cycle

It is a derivitive, but does it convert to test? No. Whens theres no test, that leaves nothing but estrogen. Whether high or low estro it doesnt matter since you have no test. DBol does not turn into or fulfill the role of test.

 

[5x10]

Why would anybody want to lose there sex drive, feel like absolute shit emotionally, no drive, no energy and have your hormones so out of whack that your estrogen sky rockets making you get gyno and break out all over with pimples for some decent gains on DBol? If you add test, just about all of that goes away and can be controlled. You follow?

no, everything you posted above is a side ffect of test as well

again, have you heard anybody complain of low test symptoms while on a dbol only cycle?

my little bro ran one and felt like superman

 

[ChrisWho?]

Those side effects come with test because when theres too much test in the body it then converts to estro. Thats where an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) comes into play. So that there is controlled, as I said. Other then that, test gives a great sense of well being, boosted libido, increased energy.

 

[5x10]

Those side effects come with test because when theres too much test in the body it then converts to estro. Thats where an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) comes into play. So that there is controlled, as I said. Other then that, test gives a great sense of well being, boosted libido, increased energy.

everything you said above can be applied to dbol as well

 

[ChrisWho?]

And no, not all of those are sides of test, unless your having problems with low testosterone.