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The Great Oral Debate: Anadrol vs. Dianabol

Anadrol vs. Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
The Great Oral Debate: Anadrol vs. Dianabol
By Gavin Kane

For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.

Anadrol (oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, Anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed Anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex.

Dianabol (methandrostenolone) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. Dianabol has been one of the most por oral steroids of all time, exploding in pority in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.
Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. gynecomastia will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with Anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, Anadrol vs. Dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of Anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take Dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking Dianabol and drop the Anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from Dianabol, which I do not experience from Anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from Anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

Anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. Dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as Anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with Anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with Dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. Dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my Dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my Anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -durabolin.

I would run my Anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my Dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of Anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.


what do you guys think of this? if i was going to do this i would lower the doses more than what he did
 
I hate anadrol, out of all the things I have tried it was the shittiest one. Dbol is by far the best oral if your not too worried about water. Don't even waste your time with the drol, the lethargy is bad at the doses you need to take, it takes 30 minutes to even warm up at the gym.

Other sides for me were:

Nose bleeds

Michelin man face

headaches

killed my appetite.
 
anadrol was the drug that made me the strongest I have ever been , 405 bench with 185 lbs body weight

id like to try this blend. 50 mg dbol / 50 mg anadrol per day for 6 weeks
 
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That is some excellent read right there. 250-300mg of adrol? WTF I'm gonna try this one of these days.
Anyway, I still had an old box of some really good drol I got back in the 90's from Brazil.

notice it's SYNTEX? That is the best shit you can get. It is H/G
Some of the caps I have got from U/G labs don't even come close to this shit.
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drol is hit or miss . some people love the hell out of it and others feel like total shit when they run it.
 
drol is hit or miss . some people love the hell out of it and others feel like total shit when they run it.

Right. I got big as hell and strong as hell. But that all goes away in time. It is not something that will give you quality gains to keep. It also made me wanna kill everyone around me.
And moon face as well.
 
i plan on giving it a try someday or possibly doing what was said in the article i posted, with way lower doses though
 
I missed this and asked same question a little late. . . Abomb or dbol and a member pointed me this way! thanks to people sharing their knowledge and write ups people like myself have more info in which to make a better decision! it doesn't matter if your on the other side of the world, black , white , or blue. . the world of body building is a brotherhood ,and a sisterhood, cant forget the ladies. all looking out that our friends don't make a mistake and try to lead them in right direction ! WTG good peeps of this forum!
 
Sounds like anadrol is better if you can handle the side effects. I think people might need to just take some blood pressure medication while on it and strong dosages of arimadex maybe a lighter dosage of testosterone. than maybe take primobolan at the right timing to make sure you keep alot of the gains. I figured primobolan might help because i heard it can preserve muscle during dieting and wouldnt be to toxic after a heavy oral cycle. Also I bet anadrol with a extremally clean bulk and counting how much sodium you are taking in would help alot.
 
Why is this even a debate? I prefer to be the one receiving not the one giving. Some call it selfish, I just call it smart.
 
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