Stopping steroids and getting on trt?

[Steroid1735]

I've been using and abusing steroids for quite some time an pretty sure my natural testosterone levels r gonna be low when I'm off and stay low considering how long I've been on for. It's important I get on trt. My question is when should I go o the doctors. Right now my testosterone levels r fairly high from being on 700mg test e for awhile. When should I go to doc or in other words when will my testosterone be low from the last injection? And would using steroids other than testosterone such as Orals or tren or something to maintains my size affect anything as in show up or something that will make him not put me on trt? My stats r 6 foot and around 240lbs with 4 pack but idk actual percentage my goal is to get on trt but not turn to shit from now until I go see doc. Thank u

 

[Megatron28]

They are going to check your TT, LH, FSH, Estradiol and Prolactin. You need to get all those lined up for a secondary or primary hypogonadism diagnosis. They won't just measure your TT and call it a day.

What was your TT at the last time you came off?

 

[Steroid1735]

They are going to check your TT, LH, FSH, Estradiol and Prolactin. You need to get all those lined up for a secondary or primary hypogonadism diagnosis. They won't just measure your TT and call it a day.

What was your TT at the last time you came off?

Should I tell him I've abused steroids in the past so there's not time wasted to figure out what caused it? And I never payed attention to anything but testosterone, estrogen, and prolactin. What's that other stuff?

 

[Megatron28]

Should I tell him I've abused steroids in the past so there's not time wasted to figure out what caused it? And I never payed attention to anything but testosterone, estrogen, and prolactin. What's that other stuff?

Don't tell them. They will likely not want to treat you

Read the Basic TRT Overview thread so you can learn more about TRT and the HPTA.

 

[Steroid1735]

Don't tell them. They will likely not want to treat you

Read the Basic TRT Overview thread so you can learn more about TRT and the HPTA.

Thank u that helped. So if I took steroids that don't increase testosterone but would obviously keep my testosterone suppressed, but kept my estrogen and prolactin low, would it show as primary or secondary

 

[Megatron28]

Thank u that helped. So if I took steroids that don't increase testosterone but would obviously keep my testosterone suppressed, but kept my estrogen and prolactin low, would it show as primary or secondary

You're welcome.

Neither. Your LH and FSH would be shut down so your doc will know you are obviously on something. Docs aren't stupid. How are you going to fake LH and FSH?

 

[Steroid1735]

You're welcome.

Neither. Your LH and FSH would be shut down so your doc will know you are obviously on something. Docs aren't stupid. How are you going to fake LH and FSH?

Would clomid be able to fake LH and FSH so show that it's trying to produce? Like if I took it only a few days before just tidying ate but not long enough to actually bring my levels up

 

[New alias]

Would clomid be able to fake LH and FSH so show that it's trying to produce? Like if I took it only a few days before just tidying ate but not long enough to actually bring my levels up

good question

bump

 

[Megatron28]

Would clomid be able to fake LH and FSH so show that it's trying to produce? Like if I took it only a few days before just tidying ate but not long enough to actually bring my levels up

Not if you currently have steroids in your system. It won't overpower the suppression. caused by them.

 

[New alias]

What's the best option for this guy?

 

[Roush]

OP- why not just put yourself on TRT ? Inject 200 mg a week of test and make a habit of getting private blood work done

 

[New alias]

OP- why not just put yourself on TRT ? Inject 200 mg a week of test and make a habit of getting private blood work done

What if a UGL he is using goes bad and he gets fake test or fake ancillaries? What if the government starts shutting down UGL's?

These are just a couple examples of why it's not a good idea to put yourself onto TRT.

Let's talk about how to go from being on test, like the OP, to imitating shut down without completely fucking yourself such as coming off with no pct lol... God that sound awful.

 

[Megatron28]

What if a UGL he is using goes bad and he gets fake test or fake ancillaries? What if the government starts shutting down UGL's?

These are just a couple examples of why it's not a good idea to put yourself onto TRT.

Let's talk about how to go from being on test, like the OP, to imitating shut down without completely fucking yourself such as coming off with no pct lol... God that sound awful.

You have to come off or find a doc that is stupid or looks the other way.

 

[siq]

I fell ya man, I'm pretty much in same boat. I'd just wait a reasonable ammount of time till everythings out of your system and then go in. No big deal if u lose some gains, I mean youll be on test the rest of your life anyway, think about it...

 

[New alias]

I fell ya man, I'm pretty much in same boat. I'd just wait a reasonable ammount of time till everythings out of your system and then go in. No big deal if u lose some gains, I mean youll be on test the rest of your life anyway, think about it...

You'd advise OP to come off test with no pct? lol

inb4 gyno

 

[Havasu]

Just a side note. Find out if your insurance even covers injectable depot-testosterone (Generic Testosterone Cypionate). If they don't, there's really no reason to go get checked by a doctor. The only real reason is to get a legal prescription. As of 2015 my insurance (Blue Cross Blue Shield) has made injectable testosterone an exclusion completely from their formulary. They won't even cover it with proper documentation from a physician. At this point using goodrx.com coupon makes the test pretty cheap, however it appears not many regular pharmacies dispense, or can even get 10ml vials of 200mg/ml Test Cyp. They only dispense 1ml vials. And the cost savings for those makes every 10ml 140, instead of 44 for a 10ml vial (Through Walgreens). At that point it starts looking like cost wise I'll just go through a UGL. I have access to a very reliable pharm grade Test that is 300mg/ml for $***** per 10ml. That's a no brainer. HCG traditionally won't be covered by insurance either, and it's cheaper to get HCG through UGL's typically.

The only real benefit to interacting with a Dr. at this point is he is monitoring my other hormones, including my Thyroid, and a array of other things, also I can get labs from him any time, and have that covered by my insurance instead of buying them through private lab orders which can get pricey.

 

[jozifp103]

You'd advise OP to come off test with no pct? lol

inb4 gyno

Well considering the purpose of pct is to restore normal testosterone levels, why would he run pct if his goal is to get a low reading so a doc would put him on pct?

 

[New alias]

I'm just saying it sounds risky to come off with nothing on hand, who knows how long you may be stuck, shut down with elevated estrogen and low t before you get your script?

 

[Roush]

What if a UGL he is using goes bad and he gets fake test or fake ancillaries? What if the government starts shutting down UGL's?

These are just a couple examples of why it's not a good idea to put yourself onto TRT.

Let's talk about how to go from being on test, like the OP, to imitating shut down without completely fucking yourself such as coming off with no pct lol... God that sound awful.

I didn't say he had to go UGL.. But he doesn't necessarily have to go to an endo or his personal doc either to get pharm grade test (and have it in his name in a legal prescribed bottle).
I get prescribed test, primo, deca, prop, my AI my hcg, etc.. And I do my own trt.. My family doc knows I do my own trt, and I'll go in for bloods there (but he is not involved in my trt in anyway)

 

[siq]

I'm just saying it sounds risky to come off with nothing on hand, who knows how long you may be stuck, shut down with elevated estrogen and low t before you get your script?

Maybe have an estrogen blocker on hand but thats about it. He should be able to get the trt, otherwise just hop right back on test...